The MCU should have ended a little after Endgame. The MCU Earth is now fundamentally different than current Earth to the point where it is harder to write resonant stories in that Earth.

That the MCU had to reach into the idea of multiverses is a symptom that the plot baggage of the MCU is now a drag on the franchise.

They made a pretty good comic-accurate show about a big green lady and a few million extremely online teen boys had their penises fall off. RIP.

They are extremely boring with little to no real threat and tedious fights where you know who's going to win anyway

Character development? Probably the only actual thing that dies

With the first wave of movies I was really excited and enjoyed them immensely. Now the novelty has long since worn itself out. The cinematic universe plot is convoluted to a point of blandness. The multiple universe angle is stupid in comics and aggravating in cinema. The streaming series (across the board) instead of getting me interested in the movies has instead inoculated me against all of the Disney IP''s.

Not exactly Marvel related, but I'm an adult now. Where are the movies dealing with mature themes and relatable plots?

The only hot take for these types of surveys is: i don't hate them.

What ever the subject is doesn't matter. When you ask a group for input on their "hot take" devolves into a forum to shit on whatever the topic may be.

So my hot take is: I enjoy some of the movies while others I do not.

The actual hot take is that most of these movies are actually pretty good in the context of their correlation to source materials. As critically acclaimed movies: debatable; but as an adaptation? Unbelievably they tie a really neat rope around a hodge podge of different ideas and oddly make it work.

The truly hot take is that these movies serve there purpose well and do a great job being a vehicle for the story in the comics (sometimes)

It's always been garbage. Not this multiverse or after im3 or whatever. The movies have always been trash.

Superhero movies are big budget police procedurals where the goal of the heroes is always to protect the status quo.

They kinda ruined it with the multiverse. Everything feels without consequence. Death is meaningless and there are no stakes now

I enjoyed the MCU up until Age of Ultron. The movies are almost all from the same mold, just with different names and look and that was true even before the first Avengers film. But it was new back then. The newness has worn off and it's way past time the MCU evolves, or retires.

The exception are the Guardians of the Galaxy series. They are better made films that actually made me feel invested in the characters. The beginning of Guardians 3 is probably the best scene in the entire MCU.

Stan Lee was a cunt.

Overall? Meh.

I don't hate it, but they're not great either.

They pushed the stakes so high that when the fights are just everyone punching and kicking each other it's stupid and silly.

It always makes me think of the reenactment of the battle of Pearl Harbor.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uyORbG3I5Ys

I think the magic is gone - now the shows and movie lack the flair and excitement of the previous era. Now it feels like the we don’t need x, we have x at home meme.

That it's shit

Not very engaging and hard to care about the characters. They put so many characters and fight scenes that it's hard to care about a any of the even if they technically killed half of them.

Meh. We have the Trump cinematic universe now, and it has scarier villains.

Big loud bang bang movies that do nothing more than dumb down their audience further. And the superheroes weirdly and conveniently save the status quo of an awful world over and over again.

Is there even a hot take you can have on Marvel besides "it's all very good" anymore? What you see is what you get, and I think we're all nauseous of the amount of content being shoved in our faces.

The writing for Endgame was lazy crap to just let them wrap things up with an epic battle. The second they introduced time travel and said, "okay, here are our specific rules we need to follow," I just checked out. It was a lazy deus ex machina so they could just retcon all of the story lines and have the battle scenes. The battle was entertaining, but didn't feel earned. If they done something with everyone being trapped in the soul-stone or in a parallel universe it would have been so much more interesting. Like if you had both universes working together to rejoin then an epic battle, but no, let's just time travel and bring everyone back, but also let Tony keep his kid. It was just lazy.

It should end.

Wait ten years, form some sort of idea and come back to it.

Endgame is one of the worst movies of all time.

That it's gotten to be as boring as the DC movies always were.

The Marvel universe is mainly there to create possibilities to make more money, not to tell a good story. Granted I have hardly seen any of the movies/series, but after Avengers I never saw a reason to. Marvel realised Avengers was good and now they pulled out as much stuff out of the universe to fill a seemingly endless stream of "storytelling".

i think i have seen multiple of them, some even in theater, but the only one i remember is the first iron man one.

so my hot take is that they're... not very interesting.

Cancel any movies project. And in 5 years start from 0, no connections with the previous movies.

They have good movies… for kids.

They're consistent.

Which is not great when it comes to making compelling art (IMO), but it makes for a predictable experience with a known value which appeals to many people.

Not really my thing, but I'm glad people like it. Everything doesn't have to be for me.