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[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

For the past three years dessalines and I have been funded to work on Lemmy full-time by generous support from the NLnet foundation. These donations are paid out when we implement certain new features. But now we are busy answering questions, reviewing pull requests and urgentlyfixing problems. That means we are unable to work on the milestones agreed with NLnet, and won’t receive payments from them.

:(

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I had such a hard time explaining to someone today that there is no universal set of Lemmy rules/politics and you can run your own instance with literally 0 rules

people have forgotten that things can exist outside of the few billionaire/trillionaire closed source walled gardens they've become so reliant on

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[-] spirit@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources. Such slander doesn’t deserve any response and is best left ignored.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

So um, no one on the face of this earth hates fascism more than a communist, the evidence you dug up only seems to reinforced the not a fascist and its utterly rediculous to call us that.

[-] andobando@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Nothing here says he's a fascist. His "genocide denial" stance stems mostly from the idea of being anti-capitalist and not trusting US-centric sources. Its not entirely without merit. Noam Chomsky for example is accused of the same thing for the Pol Pot genocide, though at the time he was right for the same reasons -- accusations started flying in the US based on completely banal sources.

I used to be like this, its not entirely harmful. And in any case, I don't give a shit about his politics. We should be thinking about how to separate peoples politics from the platform, and the work hes done on Lemmy does exactly that.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Noam Chomsky for example is accused of the same thing for the Pol Pot genocide, though at the time he was right for the same reasons – accusations started flying in the US based on completely banal sources.

You're giving Chomsky's version of the story, but it's such a weird story because one of the only communist projects Chomsky ever spoke in favor of was easily one of the worst ones (along with Peru), ones that even hardcore "tankies" disavow. Like, wasn't this the motherfucker that said the dissolution of the Soviet Union was a victory for the "left"?

Granted, there is misreporting on Cambodia, which started when it was contemporary and continues to this day, but that misreporting is mostly on the magnitude of the crimes committed, not the basis of calling them crimes (i.e. they were still awful).

Anyway, Chomsky is a shitty left-neoliberal [PDF]

[-] andobando@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

He didn't speak in favor of it. Sources came up saying millions were being killed in Cambodia. Chosmky questioned the sources saying "where the fuck is this coming from? Nothing supports this". Thats his version of the story, yeah but hardly any evidence he supported Cambodia.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Noam Chomsky for example is accused of the same thing for the Pol Pot genocide, though at the time he was right for the same reasons

It's also a valid opinion to criticize Chomsky for his reaction to the Cambodian genocide.I can't recall all the details of how things went down, so I have no comment myself, but I do have other criticisms of him.

It doesn't make him a fascist, or a Nazi/Nazi sympathizer. That would detract from what I have to say about the people who actually are, since that's a separate conversation. Same goes for the devs perhaps (but that's also a separate conversation).

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[-] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Your point being?

[-] m532@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is doxxing. People have different usernames for a reason.

[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

None of what you linked supports any of the claims that they are a genocide supporter or a fascist, if that's what you tried to show (in fact you proved the complete opposite on the latter).

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[-] christian@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It's upsetting to see the shit-talking because I imagine reading that nonsense is emotionally draining, especially when you're already stressed out with a billion things to do. I've seen you guys active in the lemmy community for years and you've always been wonderful. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the work you two have put in and are currently putting in. I'm really happy that your project is starting to catch on.

[-] ToastyWaffles@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly we're all adults here and we all know how the Internet works. Best to not feed the trolls and ignore them. The more attention you give the more it gives the appearances that their rhetoric has validity. Just move on and let's all focus on making a better fediverse for all

[-] StankFlipper@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed! I love the laid back feel of this community and not all the hostility you see everywhere else. With growth comes change though, so I hope the spirit of this group endures.

[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

For us maintainers (dessalines and nutomic), it has resulted in an endless stream of questions and notifications, which is impossible to keep up with. Previously there were 5 - 10 Github notifications per day; now they have risen to over 100 daily.

That is what i was worried about, Feedback for developers probably correlates with the number of active users , more users mean more feedback (github issues and comments) and more stuff to read, I thought this might not be a problem because i looked at mastodon and didn't see a lot of issues getting opened in a day, but it's the comments that could be the real problem, unless you will improve your funding and start hiring more people (even temporarily hiring freelancers) things will probably get worst and you will lose a lot of good feedback.

We are increasingly reliant on user donations to pay our bills. These donations currently add up to 1500 Euros per month, which is not even enough to pay minimum wage for the two of us. Hopefully more users can consider donating, so that we can put our full attention to making Lemmy better for everyone, and possibly add more developers to our worker co-op in the future.

looking at liberapay , patreon and opencollective my calculation says you are getting about 4465 dollars (2714+217.58*4.345+806) when this comment was written , that's about 0.15 dollar per active user (assuming about 28K monthly active users).

For comparison beehaw has about 3069 monthly active users and got this month (6/1/2023 -> 6/17/2023) about $3,461.60 ( 1.12 dollar per user, probably better then reddit for most of it's history).

So i am pretty sure the problem is with getting funding (most people are not aware of the option to donate, or/and are not convinced or incentived to do it). Lemmy should work on it's conversation rate.

If you are interested, i worked for a while on a guide to help fund open source and got some good feedback on it, maybe you will find it useful.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

From what I've seen, the fediverse generally is doing a rather poor job of normalising donations from users. If you have some expertise or experience in this domain, and are willing, I'd urge you to just get involved and gather people or whatever you can to create better tools or design patterns or strategies for this.

I suspect there's trepidation from developers to get to "pushy" with donations and so turn off their user base, and yet they don't really no how to go about it well and so it just becomes a lost issue when in reality it is central to a "free" fediverse.

I also worry that getting this right earlier rather than later is important. As people join the fediverse, they absorb the culture, norms and design language of the place. The earlier donations are just a normal part of things, the sooner they're actually normalised.

[-] patryk@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is the best way to donate to lemmy? According to this article it's Liberapay. Is that true?

[-] Jomn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes liberapay doesn't take any commission.

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Just made a donation on Liberapay, thanks for everything that you've done!

[-] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I subscribed to their Patreon. I don't pay for subscriptions normally, but for an open source platform I'll gladly pay to keep it that way!

[-] TylerBourbon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Same. I also ent ahead and became a regular patreon giver. Only 10 a month but its far better than buying some dumbass blue check or waiting for reddit to do the same since the CEO clearly loves him some Elon.

[-] Awoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is extremely well written. Anyone that supports and wants to see this platform thrive should share this in response to the people spreading nonsense with the goal of seeing it fail and upholding the corporate status quo.

[-] Stahlreck@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I hope this new influx of people will also bring in a nice influx of nerds who will make this platform better over time. :)

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a nerd and I'm here because Reddit has forsaken the nerds and is treating its user base like cattle to be herded. I guess most people want to be herded. That's fine for them, but I want something more, where we make our place for ourselves, to our own liking. Not so that some investors can get richer. I suspect many of you are here for similar reasons.

I would like to contribute, and have the skills to, but unfortunately no time at the moment. For now I am mostly watching to see how things develop, but sooner or later I may just jump in if I find things are moving too slow.

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[-] Fickle_Ferret@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for doing this

[-] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

God I appreciate these dudes. I don't envy them one bit right now...

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[-] scrollbars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's not much but I upped my contributions a bit. Thank you for everything you've done for the open, non-corporate internet.

[-] NotSpez@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Gang, I'd never pay for reddit gold but I sure as h*ck will pay monthly to support lemmy. You all should too!

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