If Ukraine wants this, it's their choice, and I absolutely understand why they would want to end the war.
But Russia should not think we can return to business as usual after this.
It's shameful IMO that EU hasn't helped Ukraine more.
When they lost Chrimea, it was a total loss and a further war was inevitable. If you give up more territory for NATO membership, you can rest assured you won't go to war again.
With Trump incoming there's a pretty finite clock on how long Ukraine has to cease hostilities. Otherwise it's likely to face united opposition.
But Russia should not think we can return to business as usual after this.
Oh we will, we will for sure, as soon as the bombs stop falling it's time to build more cheap gas pipelines.
Some ceasefire, with frozen conflict - similar to Korea. No real solution or peace treaty. That's why the landmines.
That seems totally reasonable to me.
"We'll stop fighting, and let you have what you stole. But if you attack again at all, it'll be a very different kind of fight for you. In the long run, you'll probably have lost more than you gained by pulling this bullshit."
No it's not actually reasonable, Russia doesn't deserve to get anything.
But I can perfectly understand why Ukraine doesn't want this war, they never wanted it. It was 100% Russian aggression, and that shouldn't be rewarded, but sometimes reality isn't fair, and you have to make unpleasant compromises.
You are not wrong, but joining NATO is the only way to ensure Russia won't just declare war again. And we have to be realistic here: Ukraine has surpassed all expectations here already. We can't expect this miracle to go on indefinitely.
It's not about deserving. Nobody deserves anything.
And you perfectly explained why it is reasonable.
It will be interesting to see what happens here. Hope for the best, expect the worst.
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