Meanwhile, cybertruck owners are doubling down on their wankpanzer purchase.
Cyber truck owners seem like the same people that previously were making fun of EVs.
While I appreciate the gender neutrality, it made me wonder: are there any women who voluntarily own a cyber truck? Every douchebag I see in or posing with one is a guy.
There's not many women who own trucks in general, cyber or otherwise.
I'm going to need some data for that one before I believe it. In the US, I have known many women who own trucks. I have lived in rural and urban areas and both had plenty of women who owned and drove trucks, including semi cabs. I could believe less by comparison but not "not many" without some data.
While Tesla remains the dominant EV maker, ...
BYD has entered the chat.
The US will just slap enough tariffs to make them roughly the same price as the competition.
No need. You can't even legally import them.
As your Canadian buddy, do you want a hookup? We'll meet on the border of Alberta and Montana under the moonlight where the moose crows.
moose crows.
A terrifying hybrid species that weigh a thousand pounds, can fly, and remember the faces of those who have wronged them.
lmao Canadians cant import BYD either. Check out the stupid rules for importing cars we have... Gonna have to wait 15 years for those imports.
As is the way of the "free market". Us automakers aren't even trying to compete, half their EVS are massive SUVs/trucks instead of smaller, lighter, more effecient designs.
Which is exactly the same pattern they repeated in the 70s. Which is when Japan ate their lunch.
This time though is a little different, with China's vastly lower worker costs, and possible government subsidization in an attempt to corner the world auto market. I can understand and agree with the 100% tariff.
I'd be fine with the tarrif if there was a manufacturer actually trying to compete. Instead it feels like "nooo we can't have byds cars here, americans need the electric F250 supercab!!!"
I'd also be fine with the tarrif if there was going to be massive investments in public transit which could reduce the need to own a car and transit tends to be more effecient than even the best EVs and is more fair to more people.
Ooh, maybe this means cheaper used Teslas.
…but then you’d have to drive a Tesla. Shit.
The fact that it is taking this long still shocks me.
I've been seeing more and more of those stickers around the last couple of years. I think this is just the media catching up
May impact sales...
Let's face it, people seem to be able to tolerate a lot of shit before they ever actually start showing how they feel with their wallets.
IDK about new car figures, but I'm in the market for another EV. I found a Tesla model 3 long range awd that had done about 150k km, and a Renault Zoe with 15k km and 2/3 the range. The Renault is slightly cheaper, but it's Musk being a loose canon that's the reason why I'm going with the Zoe instead. Sure it's a nicer car, if it works, but the fear that Musk get's high and disables non-essential stuff is too real.
So in my case Musk has directly affected my used car choice.
Does the Zoe have conventional door handles? Cause the functional design of Tesla's leaves a lit to be desired anyway.
Oh I don't know, the Budweiser stock hit endured pretty lengthy after being advertised by a non-redneck.
While Tesla remains the dominant EV maker
Well actually they don't, they've been surpassed by BYD.
I have a beater 97 Corolla. Don't care about stuff hitting it one bit. I wanna get some kind of funny sticker that's like "at least it's not a Tesla" or something like that
We're going to turn in our death trap next year and get something from an actual car company
I myself use a bicycle for local travel, and public transit for longer commutes. Musk's overpriced EVs are not the solution to global warming, IMO.
EVs were not made to save the environment. They were made to save the auto industry.
if Musk ever made the affordable car he's been promising since day 1 I'd be one of these people
He doesn’t deliver on his promises. He didn’t for the people who paid him large amounts for a car, he certainly won’t for the budget minded folk
He already (publicly at least) lost his mind by the time the cyber truck came out but that was the correct direction for a cheap vehicle
Fuck Musk, but the model 3 launched at like $35k and was eligible for a sizeable rebate. If you were already looking to buy a similar sized new car in 2019, it was relatively competitive. I don't remember what the rebate amount was, but I'm sure it took at least $5k off.
The issue is that instead of continuing that trend of basically replacing the Honda Civic, he built a fugly, terrible, overpriced truck whose existence could only ever be excused by its concept being a make-a-wish request from a now-dead six year old. Alas, there are no dead six year olds to blame for that monstrosity. We should've had a reliable and affordable EV accessible to nearly every working family in the country. We should've had a whole damn fleet of EV freight trucks, possibly with some autonomous driving, at least across long interstate roads where they would just need to keep pace, stay in lane, and not crash. Instead we got a newer, dumber, more dangerous Hummer.
Again, fuck Musk. He could've been okay, but he chose to be awful instead.
existence could only ever be excused by its concept being a make-a-wish request from a now-dead six year old. Alas, there are no dead six year olds to blame for that monstrosity.
Brutal but accurate
I believe he was always awful he was just bad at showing it, the balding man child with no public speaking skills was kinda relateable.
Unfortunately his core audience didn't get the hairplugs and cocaine nose jobs required to keep him relateable.
I prefer to cut off Teslas because nobody is letting me in anyways, and they've got automatic safety braking. Yes, my signal is on.
Former owner here. Such a relief to be rid of it. Never again as long as Musk remains at Tesla.
Not one penny will I willingly give to this monster.
brainstorms a hellscape situation where a Tesla is regulated into your ownership and every American is forcibly taxed to pay for it
"THANKS FOR THE FREE CAR BASED ELON"
~ Conservatives
You better keep an eye on that goddamn phone, buddy, I'm calling it next year.
I would be embarrassed. I crossed t-la off my list when I started looking for an EV last year. Bought an i5 instead, and a t-la adapter in case I ever needed it. When I tried to use that adapter at a t-La super charger I was locked out. It looked like it might be necessary to give $ to melon husk, but they refused to give me e-, so it was no deal. And I found a free outlet elsewhere. Melon Husk, so compostable.
Yeah, paid my non-refundable deposit (grr), saw him buy Twitter, got out of there, bought a Volvo. Nicer hardware, actually preferable highway self driving for me, infotainment does take several minutes to boot. Very glad not to be trusting Musk's word for my safety/privacy.
So sell it? Plenty of musk fanboys will buy and selling used will reduce his income. Unless there are some non-transferable nonsenses that discourage private transfer?
I'm in the market for a used EV - I won't touch a Tesla (not just because of Musk, but he's a part of it).
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