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White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so they have enough troops to battle Russia (apnews.com)

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[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

That's rich. "Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps." tho even the scraps are gonna run dry soon. Fuck biden. He could have gone down in history as a truly great leader, got everything handed to him on a silver platter, but clearly, he wishes to walk in Chamberlin's shoes.

Honestly I'm ashamed, especially as a European, we should be doing so much more. We haven't learned anything from the great wars... We're experiencing a "what if Czechoslovakia fought back" scenario, we can end it right there in Ukraine. But no...

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

That’s rich. “Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps

Yep, and you have every Democratic Party chickenhawk over here in the US, in total safety, cheering for it.

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

How about sending artillery shells instead? If the US is running out of artillery shells it should invest in some production capacity since it's critical for any large scale war, absolute no brainer.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

artillery shells buy you attack power.

Soldiers buy you military might.

once Trump gets into power they will no longer get military attack from the US and they won't have the time to drum up military might because Russia is doubling their attacks on Jan 6th.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

I admit I'm super surprised that the conscription age is 25.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 19 hours ago

At 25 people actually have had chance to finish their education, maybe work a few years, experience real life outside school and be mostly formed individuals.

This is bad for attacking armys like the US and Russia, where brainwashing of teenagers makes it easier to get them to pull the trigger on defenseless people.

This is good for defending armys where people actually know what they fight for.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I would think it would be better for defending armies to have every able-bodied person fight the invaders. Less troops seems like a worse thing than more troops.

[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Drafts are barbaric.

We shouldn't accept this shit at any age in any country.

If we all just fucking stopped doing the dirty work of warmongers we would no longer have wars.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago

The warmonger is the one invading Ukraine.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

It is massively fucked but... they probably should.

This war is ending in March or April one way or another. Europe/NATO have committed to supporting Ukraine. The US is almost guaranteed to actively betray them. And you can bet the EU and the like are going to be consolidating resources in fear of whatever else comes up.

So Ukraine needs to win NOW. It is probably already too late to meaningfully train those conscripts but having a military force that can act in that small window of late January is basically their only hope.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 22 points 2 days ago

Its actually kinda amazing they are doing so well with so limited a draft and how russia has had to call in north korea. I mean even if russia wins their method to to fuck up ukraine infrastructure so then at that point what have they won and they buried themselves in the process.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 20 hours ago

Even if Russia "wins" they are going to occupy a country that will fuck with them for a half century. They'll have to genocide like Israel to actually win.

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