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Kamala Harris has been lying low since her defeat in the presidential race, unwinding with family and senior aides in Hawaii before heading back to the nation’s capital.

But privately, the vice president has been instructing advisers and allies to keep her options open — whether for a possible 2028 presidential run, or even to run for governor in her home state of California in two years. As Harris has repeated in phone calls, “I am staying in the fight.”

She is expected to explore those and other possible paths forward with family members over the winter holiday season, according to five people in the Harris inner circle, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal dynamics. Her deliberations follow an extraordinary four months in which Harris went from President Joe Biden’s running mate to the top of the ticket, reenergizing Democrats before ultimately crashing on election night.

“She doesn’t have to decide if she wants to run for something again in the next six months,” said one former Harris campaign aide. “The natural thing to do would be to set up some type of entity that would give her the opportunity to travel and give speeches and preserve her political relationships.”

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 86 points 2 months ago

Harris' political options are closed.

Harris managed to convince the DNC to forgo a primary and annoint them and then they lost the fucking election.

End.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 25 points 2 months ago

Tbf, when Biden dropped out, there really wasn't a lot of time to organize 50 primaries according to each state's election rules and then get the result onto the general ballot in time for those deadlines.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

tbf, Biden shouldn't have run for re-election in the first place.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

There absolutely was - primaries have relatively lax laws and aren't legally binding, so even an improvised approach wouldn't have been illegal.

[-] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

-Former VPs

-From California

-Lost an election < You are here

-Ran for California Governor

-Ran for the presidency again

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The way Democrats are tacking to the right it's not far off

God, I hope not.

[-] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

At least Nixon did a few decent things, something that is absolutely impossible to say about Ronald Reagan. Although.. he did get seriously demented in his second term, maybe I’m a bit too negative.

[-] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

If we look at Kamala Harris's political path, she has more similarities with Nixon than with Reagan. But we will have to wait and see if she runs for governor of California and then if she wins or loses.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It worked for Tricky Dick.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

You got any sources for that? When Biden stepped down initially they were looking for who would replace him. His vice president / running mate was an obvious choice. I don't think I ever read anything about her trying to convince them. More then trying to convince her.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

General observations of the universe. There were discussions about having a snap primary and then suddenly Harris was the nominee.

I can't say for certain if she pursued that end herself but even if she wasn't the primary architect she consented to forgo a primary.

Edit: We're all observers to what happened - the outcome was predictable given how the DNC has operated... how is this surprising?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

So you don't have any actual evidence of your claims. Just biased perceptions.

And no none of this is surprising. What would have been surprising is if anyone individually or collectively took any responsibility for this outcome. Spreading distortions and misinformation. Helping a fascist win.

I have no real love for liberals. But all the so called lefties that felt comfortable not showing solidarity against actual fascism. Because things weren't perfect. Get far less. Don't get me wrong, as someone with a strong anarchist Dejacque Libertarian lean. I'm not here to force anyone to vote even. Or vote for anyone specifically. But I have no qualms about pointing out people disingenuously heaping undeserved criticism on liberals. While failing to acknowledge and learn the lessons of their own mistakes.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

I do have evidence - I saw it happen in real time like most of us did. Demanding sources for common knowledge reeks of JAQing off.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Post them. Your reluctance to along with the accusations reeks of projection and desperation. Which is really sad as I'm not trying to defend liberals. They fucked up just like you did. And are refusing to learn the lesson just as you are. And you both will repeat the same mistakes unironically while everyone suffers.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 77 points 2 months ago

2028 presidential run

Please fucking don't.

[-] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I could be wrong but I think she's done for good. She didn't do a good enough job obviously, and advisers helped her to fail.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 2 months ago

Yeah, no. She's no longer a viable candidate.

But I'm sure the DNC will think differently, which is one more reason why this timeline is the worst.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Luckily, the DNC strips their underwear only for Hillary Clinton, so Kamala should be okay

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

She's welcome to try, but no universe exists in which Harris wins the Democratic primary. So unless the exact set of circumstance that led to her candidacy in 2024 are somehow repeated (fat chance), she has no path to the presidency.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago
[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

I mean half the reason he was replaced is because he likely won't last until 2028.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I was joking because after his '28 run, she could get the same 'in' (though not really the same, because he wouldn't run again only to drop out).

Failed joke.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

My bet is that he'll outlive Trump.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I hope he fades out of the news completely and we have no information at all about whether he lives or dies.

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago

She needs to fade off into obscurity.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

A mediocre candidate who lost the 2020 primary badly and only got the VP spot because she was buddies with Bidens dead son. She them went on to lose badly to Trump.

I voted for her but it was really a vote for Not Trump. Hopefully this the last we hear of her.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Hey don't you worry about it.. In the next three point five years you'll see an amazing growth and national prominence in the incredible third parties our "lefty" friends have been promoting as they have the time and inclination to do the hard work it takes to become a presidential contender.

Next Presidential Election when they're all like "I refuse to vote for either party" it'll be because [insert party name here] has been on fire in all 50 states and is ready to take down the duopoly! Go get 'em! Everyone hates the Dems, let's carpe the fuck outta this diem! Yeah!

Or, y'know, just bitch about everything for 3.5 years, do nothing, and fuck it up again. Whatever. I doubt there'll be an election anyway so - pressure's off!

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Did she even really want to be president?

[-] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Could she be the Democrats Nixon?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

She cant win in any open primary.

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