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Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.

the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”

However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 223 points 1 month ago

WTF does NATO have anything to do with Israel or Palestine?!

WTF would leaving NATO have any effect on Israel or Palestine?!

WTF are these people even on about?

NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza

NATO isn't helping Israel... (while some NATO members might be, that's not NATO)

It's not NATO's job to get involved with with Israel or Palestine...

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 125 points 1 month ago

Russian propaganda had its way to them

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[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

The idea is to dethrone the US from global power because people are sick of us having our boot on their necks.

But the alternative is China wearing the boot and they've proven they would kill every non Han in the world

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Idk why you're being downvoted, you gave a pretty fair description of the situation. Even the Han bit, China doesn't have any anti-discrimination laws and they're more than 90% Han Chinese.

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 1 month ago

In the last UK election, an old-school tankie named George Galloway ran a party. One of his candidates, a former professional cricketer IIRC, called for the UK to pull out of NATO to better control immigration. To his credit, he withdrew his candidacy and dropped out of politics a week later once it became apparent how far out of his depth he was.

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[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

07 Sep. 2023 18:25

OCTOBER 12, 2023 7:09 PM CET

LOL you really thought nobody was going to check the dates on those articles? Hmm, I wonder if anything happened in Palestine since last October.

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[-] Magister@lemmy.world 110 points 1 month ago

Those young people are being manipulated by Russia! We need NATO.

[-] solo@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 month ago
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'm sure Canada not being allied with a bunch of other naval powers would be a lot better for the residents of Монреаль in the long run.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

It is weird that there are these protest groups wearing particular scarves that always seem to be acting in the interest of Russia.

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 59 points 1 month ago

Russia sponsored protest gets reported by local news, after the break.

They could have protested against the involvement of Canada in the war (is there any?), against Israel, in favor of a Palestine state…

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

Looks like Russia is bout wasting time and once again uses their distinguishers network.

Remember trucker blockages of supply routes they did right before the full invasion?

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Glad to see all the genocide sympathizers are out here in force, playing apologist for Russia.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Tankies be tankin’

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Expert level challenge: hit a bong every time someone blames the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on some party who isn't even fucking involved...

God forbid we ever acknowledge the basic truth that the two most culpable parties responsible for the ~80 years of war are, unsurprisingly to many, Israel and Palestine for empowering the worst possible political leaders on both sides. Netanyahu and Hams got the violence and anger that they always wanted and have been working towards for most of our lives, and somehow that's NATO's fault in the peabrain's shallow mind.

NATO is the main thing keeping the western world and democratic ideology safe from countries like Russia, Iran and China. Is this another thing we're gonna throw under the bus for no reason other than some vague, nonsensical whining about Gaza?

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Nah. The US has blood all over it's hands Re Gaza. Agreed that blaming NATO is nonsense

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago

Disappointed that this happened at all, but the fact that it was only 80 people is a plus. Seems like it's just a small group of terminally online agitators.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Vlad's tentacles slithering into Canada.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago

NATO isn’t the problem, support to Israel is.

[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 22 points 1 month ago

An how many of them actually have the first clue why they're asking for that?

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Send them to fight in Ukraine. Let them pick a side too.

When they ask why, tell them this is what would happen if there was no NATO. They would be drafted into the war. Just like in WW2.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 month ago

We need more of this energy

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

No we don't

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Its important for countries to work together. Could we do better? absolutely but things are worse off when we try to go it on our own, I don't understand the point of all this isolationism.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago

Sure but maybe we could have an organization that doesn't support Genocide and imperialism like NATO

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Thats fair. So is the solution giving up and leaving or working day by day to try to make change and improve the situation? Its a little bit smarter to put pressure on our representatives. Protests should revolve around people who have the power to make these changes. Its slow and frustrating but works, they'll cave if they're on the unpopular side of an issue. These organizations are too important to just throw away.

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[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can be against Putin AND against NATO.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 28 points 1 month ago

NATO is still a bad organization.

How so?

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a military and imperialist organization lol. I'll give you a detailled reply but will also return the question: what good had NATO done exaclty?

From my Canadian perspective, NATO pressures Canada to increase military spending to 2% of GDP. Meanwhile we are in the middle of the biggest housing crisis of the past 50 years, but our (most probably) next prime minister will inject billions in the army.

NATO has supported Israel intervention on multiple occasion. Although they have timidly requested a ceasefire, they continue the official discourse on “the right to defend oneself”.

NATO has embarked on numerous interventions over the past 30 years, notably the "war against terrorism” and wars in Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... All with great results /s

NATO isn't doing shit for Ukraine.

Your turn!

[-] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I get why in this momement where Ukraine appears to be dependent on NATO support, and where it seems like NATO is required to counterbalence Russia, why people would support the existence of it. But, it is absolutely a tool of US global hegemonic power. The US has committed some incredibly horrific acts to secure its position as sole global super power and NATO as a tool to develop and maintain that power has been used to that end, and will continue to be used in that way. We should not confuse tools of imperial power projection to be a good thing.

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