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[-] Sudinim@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

thanks Walmart this is really good timing

[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

They voted for nonsense looks like they are getting nonsense.

How will they call the new inflation and how are they going to pin this on not Trump. Curious how this is going to play out.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

I feel like no one bothered to campaign against Trump.... until... AFTER he won

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Gonna be real neat watching Republicans turn on corporate America and accusing them of price gouging when (for once) they're not.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They won't. Blame the last administration, rinse and repeat.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Oh, I thought he was fixing inflation!

Wow, what a shocker! Who could have predicted how that turned out?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesn't even matter:

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/18/consumer-confidence-trump-republicans-white-house

Turns out, a lot of consumer mood is literally just people's social media feeds. Even if prices go up and QoL goes down, on average, consumers might feel better simply because Trump being in office makes them feel good.

I am not going to point out how monumentally problematic this is... Nope. There's definitely no bad precedent for that.

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Is it just me, or is the article paywalled?

[-] zaft@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's crazy how so many GOP supporters didn't know this...

[-] G7dX5kWz9V2R@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

They'll still find a way to blame Team Blue for the inflation.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, at least Americans are, on average, in possession of endless piles of extra money after the last decade. Elon says it's time for all of us to tighten our belts. We're just so fat with all that money we've all been saving!

I'm so glad he and the other rich chucklefucks trickled so hard on us.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

100% guarantee price raises across the board, even for stuff not affected by tarrifs/mass deportation labor shortages.

It'll be covid all over again, an excuse to price gouge the fuck out of those who can least afford it.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

China will pay for the tariffs in the same way Mexico paid for the wall.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago

Realistically it will shift more work to India, vietnam, mexico. I'm not in supply, but I'm pretty sure my company has started shifting out of china in prep for this.

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago

But the question is, will American manufacturing make up for the costs? Or, will American manufacturing just raise their prices to match the tariffs and lump the profits into their executive bonuses. They deserve it after all for being smart enough to raise prices.

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

American manufacturing CAN'T, it would take years, decades honestly, to get back the capacity to make all the crap we've outsourced to other countries.

[-] vala@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

More like generations IMO

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago

And this is the absolute brain rot fantasy of tariffs that I keep explaining to these idiots, and keep getting blank stares or awkward silences.

Tariffs are 100% punitive, without a domestic/alternative sourcing strategy. They can work long term to reduce a foreign nation's competitive advantage in an industry while allowing a domestic industry space to exist, but that only works if there’s a domestic industry that already exists (at enough scale to meet demand) or a long term government program to nurture and build those industries - education/vocation training, regulatory concerns, infrastructure development, raw materials availability, etc

Tariffs Chinese steel/electronics/machine tools/etc into oblivion? Either buy the imported at a high price, or buy the domestic at a slightly less high price - but the cost is always carried by the consumer no matter what.

[-] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 day ago

And then there's the ensuing trade war that always happens, with the countries retaliating with their own tariffs to the US. Tariffs are a lose-lose scenario, just like they were in 2019.

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[-] coriza@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If some other countries are any indication, not only will they raise the prices but they will raise it way more than the tariffs and just blame on tariffs and with time people will just think that is the way it is. "X cost 3 times as other countries? That is because the tariffs" no mind that the tariffs is like 50% and not 300%. Like they already do with gas prices. Gas go up immediately when oil prices rise but only goes down, if ever, for new stock.

[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

During his first term Trump put a tariffs on Washing Machines. The price of imported washing machines went up. The price of domestically manufactured washing machines was also raised. Even the price of dryers — which didn’t have a tariff — went up on both imported and domestically manufactured appliances.

I have yet to see an economist that thinks Trumps tariff plans will benefit the working class.

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[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Nobody here is surprised.

[-] fatboy93@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Welp,time to trade my cheaply made Chinese shit to expensively made cheap american shit.

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

The I voted for him for cheaper eggs crowd are about to call this fake news.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

buys that external drive I've been putting off for a while

[-] Jode@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

I'm sitting here waiting for black Friday deals on lifep04 batteries for my solar setup. Fuck knows those are going to double in price when ding dong gets his hands on the levers.

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Trump almost has it. If he can just be a slightly bigger ass on a slightly bigger stage, then he'll be happy.

Musn't give up too soon.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago

Folks, listen closely, okay? Nobody understands tariffs better than me. Believe me, they’re tremendous, tremendous tariffs. And now Walmart – yes, Walmart, great company, big stores, huge – they’re telling you that YOU, the great American people, will be paying for these tariffs. And you know what? That’s fantastic news. Incredible. Let me tell you why.

First, it’s about sacrifice. The greatest country in the world doesn’t rise without its amazing, hardworking patriots chipping in a little bit more. And trust me, when you pay a little extra at Walmart for your cheap, uh, Made-in-China toasters, you’re not just buying a toaster. You’re buying FREEDOM, folks. You’re sticking it to the Chinese economy. No one else could get that deal done, okay? Only me.

Second, we’re BUILDING here, okay? When American families dig a little deeper into their pockets, that’s money going back into our economy. It’s like… MAGA economics, so smart you wouldn’t believe it. All of a sudden, Americans will say, "Hey, why am I buying Chinese stuff? Let’s buy American!" And BOOM – jobs. Factories humming. Steel, coal, maybe even wood, I don’t know. Beautiful stuff.

Third, let’s talk winning. When we pay these tariffs – our tariffs – we’re showing the world who’s boss. China thinks they’re so smart. So clever. Well, joke’s on them. We’re so good at tariffs, we’re making YOU pay them instead of them. Genius move, right? They won’t even know what hit them. Tremendous strategy. They’re probably shaking in Beijing.

And look, folks, I hear you. “But sir, sir, what about the prices?” And I say this: are you willing to pay a little more at Walmart to make America the GREATEST it’s ever been? I think you are. And if you’re not, then maybe you like China too much. Sad!

So remember, every time you spend a little extra at Walmart – and it’s a GREAT store, by the way, I love it, fantastic – just think of it as making a donation to America. To freedom. To ME – your favorite president – who is bringing the best tariffs, the best deals, and the best America you’ve ever seen.

God bless tariffs. God bless Walmart. And God bless the United States of America. MAGA!

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I mean I knew that, you knew that, Americans are so uneducated that the majority had no idea how basic economics work.

Well FAFO, we're all going to learn the hard way I guess.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And fuck those of us who already knew the lesson. Its like school but without getting to go home at the end of the day. And just like school, the kids who need it probably wont pay attention

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Everything he will do contributes to anger, division and the collapse of the United States.

[-] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 1 day ago

People will be angry but angry at the wrong people. No, let's not be angry at the guy for actively destroying everyone's lives. Let's be angry at blacks. Or gay people. Or transgenders. Or police. Or scientists.

Fucking dumb Americans.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago

It's a certainty, not a fucking "likelihood'. That's how they work.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure everyone was told this before the election.

Problem:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/11/12/trump-election-win-college-educated-voters/76109508007/

"Harris outperformed Biden’s 2020 numbers among white voters with college degrees. Meanwhile, exit polling from NBC News gave Republicans a 9-point gain with voters who never attended college."

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[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Hearing more and more stories about companies cutting bonuses this year so they can buy more supplies now at cheaper prices. They know the prices will go up and they'll have to pass the increase to the consumers. But how much you wanna bet these companies will still raise prices even before they have to pay their tariff increases? They're gonna get extra money on the supplies they paid the lower prices on.

[-] h0rnman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

I saw it explained best like this

Current imported price: $30

Current locally made price: $35

New imported price: $70

New locally made price: $69.99

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Locally made still won't happen.

Say you're an businessman who's been manufacturing in China. Excel shows that you can make the same product in America for less than the post-tariff cost. Sound good?

But you're not stupid. You know the tariffs will end up wildly unpopular and fuck up the economy. A) Why keep producing when people won't be able to afford your goods? And more importantly, you want to be left holding the bag with your shiny new American factory when the tariffs are repealed?

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

The amount of money it would take to move manufacturing back to the US would cost billions and companies aren't going to do that. They would have to pay to import (with tariffs, still) any raw materials that can't be made or mined here. Companies are just going to move their manufacturing to Vietnam another SE Asian country (some are already doing it), where labor is still cheap. And labor here for manufacturing wouldn't be cheap. The company would have to worry about unions, and this country does not like unions (or labor, for that matter).

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[-] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Realistically though, that's how tariffs just work. With products costing more, theoretically that should drive demand down and eventually lead to fewer imports. Of course, if there's still no competing product or the product is a basic necessity, then it'll likely just result in people paying more.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

There are two bright sides to this (and dark sides as well):

-This will decrease demand of Chinese goods in the U.S., hurting a country that is ... problematic to say the least. (Anyone remember the Uyghurs? The O.G. Gazens?) It probably won't shift demand back to the U.S. factories, but maybe it is time for another country to become the slave-labor-ish manufacturing capital of the world.

-When the prices skyrocket, along with food from all the missing immigrant farm hands, Trump will get blamed. I just hope this wasn't the plan all along and those "fake" inflation hikes back after covid weren't to cover for the real ones down the road.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

Trump will get blamed

Ha, ha, ha, he will blame Biden, or immigrants, and his moron supporters will believe him just like they have when he lied the other thousands of times.

[-] prole 41 points 1 day ago

Trump will get blamed

Oh honey...

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

When the prices skyrocket, along with food from all the missing immigrant farm hands, Trump will get blamed.

i really hope you’re right, but i think that will most likely get blamed on biden “ruining the economy” in his last term, or something in that vein. a lot of trump voters get their news from fox news or directly from donald trump, and i can’t imagine either of those sources criticizing trumps economic policies.

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trump will get blamed

Like they blamed him for his COVID-19 response?

If that didn't get through... honestly, I have no idea what would. Americans are just stuck in their feeds and divorced from reality now.

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