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[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 210 points 8 months ago

This is a problem that can be solved.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 147 points 8 months ago

That's true, but unfortunately it won't be solved, at least not in the US. Simply because private prisons are such a profitable business there.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 41 points 8 months ago

Friendly reminder that prisons are a profitable business. There are relatively few private prisons, but companies like Sysco make a ton of money from public prisons and prisoners are leased out as slaves too.

[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

As is government owned prisons. Corporations profiting from punitive slavery and bribing politicians to keep the slaves coming is the norm for ALL US prisons, not a "private ones only" exception.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure you're absolutely right. I just can't say much about all this myself because I'm from Europe. Things are very different here: private prisons are unimaginable for very obvious reasons. Doesn't mean that we don't have similar problems (people trying to get rich on this) with public prisons, but at least all this is treated less as a business in Europe, which of course it should never be for very obvious reasons.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Many states have legalized weed to varying degrees, and not all prisons are run the same either.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Yes, I'm aware of that. What's your point?

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

You seemed not to be aware of that based on your original assertion that private prisons would not allow for solutions in the US.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't think anything will change about people being sent to prison for trivialities as long as there are private prisons. Because if you organize this matter according to capitalist logic, the illusion arises that people in prison would not cause costs in the public budget, but just profits for private companies - just like in a hotel where the beds have to be occupied as best as possible. In my opinion, this fundamentally contradicts the purpose of prisons. It is not about generating profits, but about ensuring the functionality of society - in the worst case by locking people up because they are a danger to society. In a capitalist logic, you lock them up for trivialities because that generates profits. That should never be the case. There are purely economic arguments against this approach, namely that the labor of those imprisoned unnecessarily is lost and at the same time costs are incurred for all citizens as a result of this imprisonment. For this reason alone, private prisons are absurd. They are also morally wrong because they create monetary incentives where there should be none.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cool. All I said was that not all prisons are private, and that weed is legal in many places. The us is not a monolith.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cool. Still, don't get caught three times smoking weed in a state where it's illegal. Otherwise: enjoy the weekend and smoke up.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure enough. It is legal here, I don't smoke much, but I do have a few plants. Hopefully, the rest of the union will continue to get on board.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Wasn’t there a candidate during the last election who wanted to legalise cannabis?

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Don't ask me since I'm from Europe. But even I know that this candidate could not possibly have been Trump.

[-] Affidavit@lemm.ee 29 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's a pretty straight-forward solution. OP should have just used intergenerational wealth to buy politicians and make their preferred substance of entertainment (or coping mechanism) legal. It boggles my mind how so many people ignore obvious solutions like this.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

Hey, my dad only gave me a small million dollar loan and I did alright.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I think they meant that the problem can be solved by people bot being dicks and going out of their way to ruin someone's life just because they don't approve of what that person puts in their body.

As opposed to drugs like crack cocaine which actually will ruin your life, so if you use it, you'll have problems that can't be solved.

[-] Affidavit@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago
[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 18 points 8 months ago

Not anymore.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

yes, give him more drugs

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Legalize all drugs? I agree

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

passing to the left hand side ?

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