Good lord, what a bunch of whiny little fucks you are. Go host your own server, maybe you'll have time after Algebra class...
If you're looking to avoid all "problematic" content, you better shut down the service right now.
Reddit 2.0...already migrating off this censorship.
You can use LASIM app (Windows/Mac/Linux) to migrate your profile and settings to another instance. Highly recommend.
Personally, I think this was a terrible decision and I think it's abundantly clear you will lose users for this. I used this as the reason to self host my own instance. Good luck.
are platforms liable for user behavior?
It depends on the jurisdiction. In the United States, we have the DMCA which has been weaponized by content creators and publishers, but we also have a "safe harbors" provision to the DMCA that is supposed to protect online service providers from being liable for copyright infringement based on the actions of their users - as long as they meet certain provisions and restrictions and perform certain duties and dilligence. And yet even with that in place, it does not stop content providers from suing service providers and forcing those service providers to incur the pain and expense of mounting a legal defense.
I am pretty sure that Lemmy.world admin team are European and that the instance is hosted somewhere in Europe, so they would have their own jurisdictional laws to follow.
TL/DR: even if a service provider is technically protected from the actions of their users it is still subject to provisions and conditions, and that still doesn't stop them from being sued and having to mount a defense. Some people just don't feel the hassle of all that justifies the whatever benefits they'd gain from fighting that fight.
Certainly you've heard of 'The Pirate Bay', who's 'users' famously used their platform to share copyrighted materials...the founders of The Pirate Bay were arrested, tried, and convicted, and were forced to serve jail time. Turns out the "but it was our user's doing it" defense wasn't as reliable as everyone here seems to be suggesting.
Pre-emptively hitting my last resort button
There is a local piracy-focused community at !piracy@lemmy.world. It's pretty dead, of course, only 4 posts ever, but still. How does this square with those others being blocked?
You have won my goodwill with your track record of decisions so far. I don't agree with this one, but it is not a dealbreaker for me. Thank you for getting around to announcing this in a public space, but as you say, please make sure to do this first next time something of this caliber is put through.
I don't get all the hate. LW is run by some volunteers. They can ban or censor whatever they want for why-ever they want. They don't owe anyone here anything. They don't really have to even say why, or when, or what communities they ban. Hell, they could ban all communities that start with the letter H if they wanted just to do it.
The people frothing at the mouth screaming about this is why I left reddit are a riot. Go back. Go to another instance. Fucking sack up and host your own instance, with hookers and blackjack. But stop demanding people you don't employ do your bidding. Would you even work for a boss acting like that?
Thank you for this update and your work!
It was sad to see the level of hostility displayed in some of the threads yesterday.
You are still doing a great job as the most public facing instance, and it's good to hear you noticed the request for more transparency.
Take care!
Thanks mom, is there anything else you want to protect our poor little eyes from?
Didn't even know an instance could block a specific community of another instance. I thought the only option was defederation. Is there any way to see/list the communities blocked by an instance?
Literally 1984
I don't begrudge your decision. To me this comes down to a question of if you're willing to be on the hook for a multi million dollar lawsuit, even if you'd definitely win in the end. It's still an expensive process.
I sure as hell am not willing to do that, so I'm not going judge other people who aren't willing either. I wish more people would look at it from this perspective.
By design, this isn't Reddit. We didn't want to be at the whims of their bullshit CEO and corporation. Unfortunately, that's also exactly who can afford to have legal squabbles and not go bankrupt. This is just a natural consequence of having a community run space vs a corporate one.
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