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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[-] IZanderI@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Any suggestions on instances to move over to?

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[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not with me. Pirating for personal use is perfectly legal in my country.

Do we have an account migration tool yet and can somebody recommend a nice instance?

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[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

So, in order to subscribe to those communities I should create another account in a different instance that either has them or is federated with them, right….? Any workaround for that? This sounds like it’s going to be a real chore to follow and will push a lot of people out of lemmy in general

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[-] grayhaze@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

What surprises me is that people think making a community specifically for illegal activity isn't a problem, and that they should only be called on their behaviour when a copyright holder notices them. There are plenty of places to go for piracy online, so what's the need to add a community for it here? Or are you people claiming a piracy community wasn't primarily intended for piracy?

[-] joe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Do you think discussing piracy is illegal?

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[-] chk232@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago
[-] tcj@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I don't understand how lemmy world has removed them, aren't those all communities on different servers? How is this our problem?

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[-] SaltyLemon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago
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[-] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I can see it is informational only. There is no direct content linking, this does not sound illegal.

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[-] Belkor@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How does Reddit get away with hosting these communities without the mentioned issues?

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

They aren't, just a recent example: https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-take-reddit-to-court-again-to-unmask-piracy-commenters-230621/

But they have good lawyers. LW admins don't have the same means. It doesn't even matter whether you're "right" or "wrong" here and that's what the pro-piracy advocates here miss.

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[-] Tired8281@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

What are your thoughts on communities about drugs? Pretty big topic for me, although the drug subs mostly haven't moved here yet, is that because you ban them? If so, I'm wasting my time waiting for them here.

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[-] Setarkus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

And once again we have people thinking that the instance owners would have to discuss everything they want to do with them and get the approval of everyone. It's already great that they're making announcements instead of doing it silently until people notice on their own. Plus, it's not hard to make an account elsewhere if you don't like it here. I doubt you're restricted to this single instance.

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[-] Budsofstone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

All the people saying just change instances, I would and will but this being the biggest instance and calling itself the front-page of Lemmy. This sets a precedent for banning things capitalism doesn't support with out even talking to your user base. And I disapprove.

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[-] giantofthenorth@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah fuck off im out of here.

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[-] esty@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

is this the new most downvoted post on lemmy?

[-] Kwaker76@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I suspect this won't be a popular opinion, but it seems strange to me that a lot of people are making a fuss about lemmy.world blocking communities that literally advocate for illegal practices. If you disagree with lemmy.world blocking piracy communities, where should they draw the line? Allow literally any community to be created irrespective of the legality of what its advocating for? I would presume (and hope) that you wouldn't have a problem with lemmy.world blocking CP communities for example?

The Fediverse can't function as a free-for-all. It has to have rules, and instances have to be able to police those rules for the betterment of the whole.

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

The piracy communities don't allow linking to pirated content and have broken no rules. This was tyrannical.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

You either die a hero...

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago
[-] pozbo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Because you're so scared of corporate lawsuits you may as well defederate from any union-positive instances as well.

Just to mitigate risk of corporations that wouldn't appreciate it at all. Never know when you might get sued.

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The last paragraph clearly shows you have absolutely no idea why people are upset.

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