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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 72 points 3 days ago

Why would an RTX 4090 make Python faster?

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 68 points 3 days ago

Don’t worry this post was written by a first year computer science student who just learned about C. No need to look too closely at it.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago
[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

The only language worth discussing is brainfuck

[-] OrnateLuna 4 points 3 days ago

Purest of the programming languages

[-] ours@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

Joke's on you, he was talking about "Phyton". /s

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

I bet an LLM could have written this meme without making that mistake.

Embarrassing.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The new favorite language of AAA game studios: ~~Phyton~~ Python

[-] trespasser69@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Well, it just demostrate how slow is unoptimized software

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you create a meme like this at least inform yourself on how computers and software work.

[-] Matshiro@szmer.info 19 points 3 days ago

If 4090 is not making stuff faster then why my games run faster with it? /s

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Easy, your 4090 is made of pure assembly.

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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 28 points 3 days ago

Screaming at my single-threaded, synchronous web scraper "Why are you so slow, I have a 4090!"

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 57 points 3 days ago

I'm happy if it's actually running in python and not a javascript app with electron.

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Idk, it's rare for an electron app to literally not even run. Meanwhile I'm yet to encounter a python app that doesn't require me to Google what specific environment the developer had and recreate it.

[-] gitamar@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

I think with pyenv and pipenv/UV you can create pretty reliable packaging. But it's not as common as electron, so it's a pain.

[-] VeganCheesecake 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With a properly packaged python app, you shouldn't even notice you're running a python app. But yeah, for some reason there's a lot of them that ... aren't.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

Ah yes, those precious precious CPU cycles. Why spend one hour writing a python program that runs for five minutes, if you could spend three days writing it in C++ but it would finish in five seconds. Way more efficient!

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because when it is to actually get paid work done, all the bloat adds up and that 3 days upfront could shave weeks/months of your yearly tasks. XKCD has a topic abut how much time you can spend on a problem before effort outweighs productivity gains. If the tasks are daily or hourly you can actually spend a lot of time automating for payback

And note this is one instance of task, imagine a team of people all using your code to do the task, and you get a quicker ROI or you can multiply dev time by people

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago

That also goes to show why to not waste 3 days to shave 2 seconds off a program that gets run once a week.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Agreed. Or look at the manual effort, is it worth coding it, or just do it manually for one offs. A coworker would code a bunch of mundane tasks for single problems, where I would check if it actually will save time or I just manually manipulate the data myself.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

You can write perfectly well structured and maintainable code in Python and still be more productive than in other languages.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

This site has good benchmarking of unoptimized and optimized code for several languages. C+ blows Python away. https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/index.html

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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Welp, microcontrollers say hi

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Welp, I'm not saying you should use Python for everything. But for a lot of applications, developer time is the bottleneck, not computing resources.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

So, I've noticed this tendency for Python devs to compare against C/C++. I'm still trying to figure out why they have this tendency, but yeah, other/better languages are available. 🙃

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[-] ngn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

plus all the spying and the "telemetry" bs

[-] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Armatures, I only write software using my hammer by punching holes in steel plates.

[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago
[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I know it makes me sound like an of man shouting at clouds but the other day I installed Morrowind and was genuinely blown away by how smooth and reliable it ran and all the content in the game fitting in 2gb of space. Skyrim requires I delete my other games to make room and still requires a whole second game worth of mods to match the stability and quantity of morrowind.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

High res textures (especially normal maps) and higher quality/coverage audio really made game sizes take off. Unreal's new "Nanite" tech, where models can have literally billions of polygons, actually reduces game size because no normal maps.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago
[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That's fair, though honestly the only issue I ever had on the Xbox was having a loading screen every 5 minutes.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, but also community rewrite of the Morrowind engine, to make it even more better: https://openmw.org/

Admittedly, some changes might make it use more resources, for example it's got basically no loading screens, because nearby cells get loaded before you enter them...

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I'm actually giving that a try now because it comes packaged with bazzite! I just wish I could figure out modding lol

[-] Vitaly@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

No Phyton, Jiverscrap is best.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago
[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Love you homie 💋 walks away

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

"bloat" is just short for "your computer sucks".
Dump your peasant tier shit and go fill up that 42U rack.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Tbh this all seems to be related to following principles like Solid or following software design patterns. There's a few articles about CUPID, SOLID performance hits, etc

  • it all suggests that following software design patterns cost about a decade of hardware progress.
[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Absolutely not lol.

If SOLID is causing you performance problems, it's likely completely solvable.

Most companies throwing out shitty software have engineers who couldn't tell you what SOLID is without looking it up.

Most people who use this line of reasoning don't have an actual understanding of how often patterns are applied or misapplied in the industry and why.

SOLID might be a bottle neck for software that needs to be real-time compliant with stable jitter and ultra-low latency, the vast majority of apps are just spaghetti code.

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