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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 72 points 8 months ago

Why would an RTX 4090 make Python faster?

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 70 points 8 months ago

Don’t worry this post was written by a first year computer science student who just learned about C. No need to look too closely at it.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago
[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago

The only language worth discussing is brainfuck

[-] OrnateLuna 4 points 8 months ago

Purest of the programming languages

[-] ours@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Joke's on you, he was talking about "Phyton". /s

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 6 points 8 months ago

I bet an LLM could have written this meme without making that mistake.

Embarrassing.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The new favorite language of AAA game studios: ~~Phyton~~ Python

[-] trespasser69@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Well, it just demostrate how slow is unoptimized software

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you create a meme like this at least inform yourself on how computers and software work.

[-] Matshiro@szmer.info 20 points 8 months ago

If 4090 is not making stuff faster then why my games run faster with it? /s

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Easy, your 4090 is made of pure assembly.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Because game need marketing to run

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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 28 points 8 months ago

Screaming at my single-threaded, synchronous web scraper "Why are you so slow, I have a 4090!"

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 58 points 8 months ago

I'm happy if it's actually running in python and not a javascript app with electron.

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Idk, it's rare for an electron app to literally not even run. Meanwhile I'm yet to encounter a python app that doesn't require me to Google what specific environment the developer had and recreate it.

[-] gitamar@feddit.org 5 points 8 months ago

I think with pyenv and pipenv/UV you can create pretty reliable packaging. But it's not as common as electron, so it's a pain.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago

That's fair.

[-] VeganCheesecake 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

With a properly packaged python app, you shouldn't even notice you're running a python app. But yeah, for some reason there's a lot of them that ... aren't.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

Ah yes, those precious precious CPU cycles. Why spend one hour writing a python program that runs for five minutes, if you could spend three days writing it in C++ but it would finish in five seconds. Way more efficient!

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because when it is to actually get paid work done, all the bloat adds up and that 3 days upfront could shave weeks/months of your yearly tasks. XKCD has a topic abut how much time you can spend on a problem before effort outweighs productivity gains. If the tasks are daily or hourly you can actually spend a lot of time automating for payback

And note this is one instance of task, imagine a team of people all using your code to do the task, and you get a quicker ROI or you can multiply dev time by people

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 8 months ago

That also goes to show why to not waste 3 days to shave 2 seconds off a program that gets run once a week.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

You can write perfectly well structured and maintainable code in Python and still be more productive than in other languages.

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[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Welp, microcontrollers say hi

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Welp, I'm not saying you should use Python for everything. But for a lot of applications, developer time is the bottleneck, not computing resources.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

So, I've noticed this tendency for Python devs to compare against C/C++. I'm still trying to figure out why they have this tendency, but yeah, other/better languages are available. 🙃

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[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

I know it makes me sound like an of man shouting at clouds but the other day I installed Morrowind and was genuinely blown away by how smooth and reliable it ran and all the content in the game fitting in 2gb of space. Skyrim requires I delete my other games to make room and still requires a whole second game worth of mods to match the stability and quantity of morrowind.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

High res textures (especially normal maps) and higher quality/coverage audio really made game sizes take off. Unreal's new "Nanite" tech, where models can have literally billions of polygons, actually reduces game size because no normal maps.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago
[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That's fair, though honestly the only issue I ever had on the Xbox was having a loading screen every 5 minutes.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, but also community rewrite of the Morrowind engine, to make it even more better: https://openmw.org/

Admittedly, some changes might make it use more resources, for example it's got basically no loading screens, because nearby cells get loaded before you enter them...

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[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago
[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago
[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Love you homie 💋 walks away

[-] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Armatures, I only write software using my hammer by punching holes in steel plates.

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

amateurs, i write my software with a magnetized needle and a steady hand

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 8 months ago

"bloat" is just short for "your computer sucks".
Dump your peasant tier shit and go fill up that 42U rack.

[-] Vitaly@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

No Phyton, Jiverscrap is best.

[-] ngn@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

plus all the spying and the "telemetry" bs

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Tbh this all seems to be related to following principles like Solid or following software design patterns. There's a few articles about CUPID, SOLID performance hits, etc

  • it all suggests that following software design patterns cost about a decade of hardware progress.
[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Absolutely not lol.

If SOLID is causing you performance problems, it's likely completely solvable.

Most companies throwing out shitty software have engineers who couldn't tell you what SOLID is without looking it up.

Most people who use this line of reasoning don't have an actual understanding of how often patterns are applied or misapplied in the industry and why.

SOLID might be a bottle neck for software that needs to be real-time compliant with stable jitter and ultra-low latency, the vast majority of apps are just spaghetti code.

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