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The End of American Exceptionalism (www.foreignaffairs.com)
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[-] mercano@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago

Trump was right about one thing, we are a nation in decline, but it’s not for the reasons he’s claiming.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago

Maybe even the start of Americans engaging with reality, I'm not holding my breath though.

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Even though we will admittedly never engage with reality, you may still consider holding your breath around us to be prudent. We smell awful from all the obesity.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 19 points 10 hours ago

End? It was always a myth?

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Right? But American mainstream media would not admit that.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 hours ago

It is difficult to get Drezner to understand that American exceptionalism is already dead when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

They aren’t exceptional. They’re just like Russia.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

I'd argue we're a lot more like the British empire in their glory days- exporting authoritarianism, subjugation, and hate globally, for as long as it serves our material benefit.

We learned from the best 🤷‍♂️

[-] Meltrax@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago

We are not just like Russia.

We aren't exceptional though, you got that right. America hasn't been exceptional in decades.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 hours ago

Oh, it has… just not in the ways anyone would desire to be considered exceptional.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Given that Russia has a competent government and isn't on a verge of a civil war, not sure in what way America is like Russia.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You call competent a government that pulled the "special military operation" and led hundreds of thousands of its people into death for not much of anything? You must be trolling.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Typical of American exceptionalism to stand other country on the verge of existential crisis and when they react call that "for not much of anything"

[-] joe_@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I view FA as an arena for American political elite to build legitimacy for their ideas.

That, combined with an expected surge of corrupt foreign policy practices, will leave the United States looking like a garden-variety great power.

I'm surprised to hear such strong language out of FA. I normally expect boring policy-style language.

He believes that the U.S.-created liberal international order has, over time, stacked the deck against the United States.

I've perceived that things have never been better for American international order than under Trump/Biden.

he will likely use Schedule F—a measure to reclassify civil service positions as political slots—to force them out.

Interesting precedence if so. Having career civil servants keeps things from changing too fast, and turning them political could enable instability. I'm curious how this interacts with the Hatch act.

The first is the inevitable corruption that will compromise U.S. policies.

I'm surprised at the emphasis on "corruption" language, especially in FA. This type of language gets people labeled "troublemaker" as Chomsky might say.

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