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submitted 9 hours ago by ultranaut@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Never give the cops your phone.

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 hours ago

Max penalty for cops that break the law, should be automatic.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 hours ago

Cops gonna cop. I’m to the point where you could tell me a cop was found torturing babies to death with hot irons and I wouldn’t doubt it was true. Truly horrible people.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 10 points 5 hours ago

And yet that cop would still have numerous supporters pouring out of the woodwork claiming that "the babies should have complied."

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 37 points 9 hours ago

Never give cops your phone, yes. Also, don't use biometrics to lock your phone. Police can legally force you to unlock with your thumb print, they legally (and like, physically) cannot force you to reveal a passcode stored only in your brain.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh forcing physically works very well with a gun to your head, but yeah not legal ofc.

Also any phone that has been out of your vision in the hands of police, border agencies or TSA is electronic waste.

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 hours ago

Just to be clear, they can't legally search your phone at all without either consent or a warrant. There is absolutely no reason you need to hand your phone to a cop during a traffic stop, no matter how it is secured.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago

Obligatory reminder that (for iPhone at least) hitting the right side button rapidly 5 times locks out biometrics and forces pin entry

[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

alternatively hold power and one of the volume buttons for a few seconds

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That dials 911 on Android. That was a fun feature to discover on my new phone. I'm sitting there, trying to turn up the volume for a podcast and it's not working. Pull my phone out of my pocket and see that it's on a countdown before it dials out! The count is down to 3! No, no, no, no, no, no, no! Cancel! Hang up! What the fuck!? Why is that a thing!?

That shit got disabled real quick.

[-] nimble 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ngl i got a voice telling me i should try it now

Edit: ok you weren't joking 🤣

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago

For Android, a reboot forces a pin code.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

There's also 'lockdown mode' which forces a pin and hides most info from the lockscreen.

Long-press power, then select 'lockdown'. (you may have to enable this feature in settings)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

A useful aspect of Lockdown mode (on top of it potentially being quick) is that you can still get into the camera without unlocking it (for me it's a double tap on the power). When you're locked down they can't navigate to your photos, but you might want to be able to record things.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 8 hours ago

And to get the reboot option on Pixels, long press Power and Volume Up. Infinitely more annoying than just long pressing the power button.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

What? Do you mean to get the pop up on screen? That's still a simple long press on the power button. I just did it now on my Pixel.

Long power + Vol Up does a hard reboot directly without calling the power menu

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Default after Pixel 5 is to bring up Google Assistant with a long press of the power button.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Then they must have changed their minds again, I haven't changed this setting so it's default has been long press for power button

But I did find the setting so you can change it and not worry about it anymore: Settings > System > Gestures > Press and Hold power button

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

But it also takes like 10-15 seconds of holding it. Not something you can do when a cop holds out his hand for your phone.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

For a hard reboot yea. It's faster to do the onscreen menu which pops up in like a second

Or you can root and restore such powers to Tasker

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

This is the case on iOS as well but restarting takes longer and more explicit interactions than pressing a button five times

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Thats handy AF. Thanks.

Like people have commonly said, avoid using biometrics.

In addition:

If you dont clean your phone screen, the leftover oil residues left by your finger could reveal the passcode. So wipe (as in physically wipe) your phone screen every time after you enter your passcode.

If you suspect cameras to be around, try to obstruct the view from any potential cameras recoding you as you type your passcode.

Not to mention there are some exploits like Cellebrite has figured out. So even with those precautions, your data still might not be safe.

In short, I'd recommend that you dont rely on your phone's local encryption to protect your data.

Instead, encrypt with an open source program and upload the encrypted content to a cloud service that is hosted in a jurisdiction with good privacy protection laws (or alternatively, if you don't like the cloud, keep it in a hard drive / SSD hidden in a safe location). And then delete the data from your phone. Cant force you to reveal you data if they don't know what data exists.

[-] whithom@discuss.online 3 points 8 hours ago

Also on iPhone, tap power 5 times will bring up the emergency call, BUT will disable biometric login and force the passcode.

But don't assume this also works for android. I tested it on a Samsung phone and triggering the emergency call and expecting biometrics to be disabled, but I found out it does not disable biometrics, but you need to change a setting that enables a separate button to show up known as "Lockdown mode". You then bring up the power menu and tap the "Lockdown mode" button to disable biometrics.

Or you can force a reboot, press volume down + power button for approximately 10 seconds.

For android phones that aren't Samsung, it should be just holding the power button for 10 seconds.

Basically the standard operating procedure whenever you see law enforcement walking towards you, is that you should reach into pockets and press and hold the button combo to force a reboot. You don't even need to take it out of your pocket and its less noticible than taking the phone out of your pocket.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Oooh Missouri cops in the national news, this is sure to be good news.

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