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  • A new patch is being quietly pushed to Windows 10 (and 11) PCs
  • It’ll force upgrades in certain circumstances to keep the PC in support
  • This update will mean more nag prompts coming to your PC
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[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Why are they pushing so hard for people to upgrade? I don't understand

[-] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 33 points 4 days ago

Not as bad as a recent security patch which unexpectedly upgraded Windows Server 2022 to 2025 causing at least a few outages I know about for our clients.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago

Can't be nagged about Windows 11 if you never switched to SecureBoot.

[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Can't be nagged about Windows 11 if you ~~never switched to SecureBoot.~~ use Linux.

ftfy

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

How is it gonna nag me to upgrade to Windows 11 when I don't have a TPM?

I'd love to upgrade, the system is completely capable of running it, but because it doesn't have a useless bit of hardware I can't. Fuck em.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 19 points 4 days ago

It's not useless. It will enable MS to build the walled garden they want, where you are forced to use the software they permit you to and nothing else.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 20 points 4 days ago

Mine said I couldn't upgrade because of the no TPM thing. Turns out it's just off by default on a lot of mobos.

Secondly, there's a program called Rufus that can create a bootable flash drive with Windows 11 but removes stuff like the TPM requirements, the need for Microsoft account sign in, all the bad stuff etc

I'd been avoiding it for a year until I learned about Rufus but now that I've installed it, you know what? Without all the bloat, it's a fucking smooth OS. Really excellent multitasking windows and fast too

Lemmy shits on it because "muh Linux" but if you install it right, it's fucking excellent for the vast, vast majority of people

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

but if you install it right

Basically eliminates the vast majority of people who don't have the technical knowledge to deal with Rufus

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[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 9 points 4 days ago

simple, Linux.

[-] aliser@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

as per usual, Microsoft remains the biggest advertiser to Linux

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[-] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago

And when you try to install, they'll say "no you can't, get a new computer"

Microsoft is really in to the Year of Linux Desktop thing

[-] icogniito@lemmy.zip 47 points 4 days ago

I am very glad I moved to Linux full time

[-] Roopappy@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

Despite what everyone told me on message boards about lack of support for Adobe products and CAD software... somehow I've been really successful on linux-only for many many years now.

It's really nice. Remember when your computer was actually yours? You choose what apps to install, what configuration you want, and who you share your data with? Those dreams are alive with Linux: Not just for nerds anymore.

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[-] EldritchFeminity 54 points 4 days ago

Stuff like this is why I disabled the TPM on my computer. No TPM means that you're "not eligible" for 11, meaning I don't get nagged by the random full screen pop-ups.

[-] magoosh@feddit.nl 18 points 4 days ago

I updated my bios at some point and it turned on the TPM again, be careful! When I got an update window and quite the shock, I added a group policy to block the update as a backup.

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[-] Mac@mander.xyz 31 points 4 days ago

M$oft: "Your hardware, my computer"

[-] orl0pl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'm going to upgrade to Ubuntu

[-] Warjac@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

If they keep this up when are they going to offer to buy me a new PC for the new OS?

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago

They won't, but they bought me a brand new shiny copy of Linux Mint.

[-] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

I'll keep running W10 on my current machine, but when I build the next one I'm very seriously considering going Linux. My only concern is that many of the software I use regularly don't have Linux versions.

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[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is there anyway to permanently stop windows from updating? I tried few methods off YT but updates do not stop.

(No, don't recommend me Linux. I have tried it(Mint and Manjaro) and it is way out of my skillset)

[-] Vanshaj@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I'm glad to see someone not downvoted for refusing to use Linux on Lemmy. The environment here is getting better for even non-linux users.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The US (which is usally a majority as it was for Reddit) just hasnt woken up yet /s

[-] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

No, don't recommend me Linux

Ok, ok... Get a mac 🤣

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[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Absolutely, yes, I've had it disabled since the first W10 feature update. It gets harder with every new release, but it is doable.

You need to manually disable these services with Regedit

-Update Orchestrator (UsoSvc)

-Windows Update Medic Service (WaaSMedicSvc)

-Windows Update (wuauserv)

-Microsoft Edge Update Service (edgeupdate + edgeupdatem)

-Microsoft Edge Elevation Service (MicrosoftEdgeElevationService)

Then you need to go into Task Scheduler and disable all the tasks under the services listed above. I'd also suggest not using Edge, as it will now aggressively repair Windows Update, even with all this stuff disabled.

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[-] lengau@midwest.social 8 points 4 days ago

I'm not here to change your mind, but man... Mint and Manjaro are not great introductions to Linux IMO.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. Every day, attackers develop new methods to compromise your system. Those updates fix the vulnerabilities. In this increasingly connected age, those fixes are critical.

[-] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

https://github.com/tsgrgo/windows-update-disabler

Everything else people commonly suggest online does not work.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Until the AI stuff I would have loved to get an upgrade. Now... Not so much. And good thing my computer doesn't qualify due to their arbitrary standards.

[-] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Genuine question: why not try Linux? You'll continue to get updates without the nagware. There are very few games I play that cant run on proton at this point.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Multiplayer gaming. I love games like Foxhole and they usually have a bit of trouble on Linux.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

With my TPM chip off I do not qualify either, I guess at some point windows will upgrade without my intervention then be bricked, plz Proton make the 70 missing vr titles in my library work, you are my only hope!

[-] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Anyone know where I can buy a gaming PC with linux preinstalled instead of windows?

[-] funkajunk@lemm.ee 32 points 4 days ago

Pretty much all modern Linux installers offer to wipe the existing drive and overwrite. Just prepare a USB drive and boot from it, then follow the steps in the wizard.

Create bootable media - Linux Mint

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Always remember to disable secureboot and remove bitlocker before installing linux on a oem windows machine. They make it hell to remove that malware from newer machines.

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[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have a system76 machine. It's been really good with steam. Or a steam deck, it's just a PC.

Their laptops are not worth it if I'm honest. They have issues with the hinges. I had two of them give out. They use a very cheap plastic. But you are guaranteed no driver issues if you use PoPOS on their own machines.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Just build one, cheaper to boot.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago
[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 12 points 4 days ago

At least when it came to a laptop, I bought mine without a preinstalled OS - that is far more common than preinstalled Linux.

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Bro istg if I reboot my windows separate ssd and it's windows 11 am fully gonna use Linux

[-] r_deckard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

We'll see. I've set the Group policy to limit feature updates to Win 10 22H2. I will be unhappy if they over-ride or reset a GPO.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 14 points 4 days ago

Finally, the year of the Linux desktop

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[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Didn't they do that since win7?

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