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Show these trumpers what a failing economy looks like. (lemmy.world)
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The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.

Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn't schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it's not here, it's not here. I don't mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.

I'm out though.

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[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My plan is to stop participating in the economy as much as I can. Only the basic necessities now. The fun times are over. Let’s help crash the Trump economy.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago

a lot of us have been 'existing' on 'only the basic necessities' for years

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

That’s true. I guess I sounded privileged there.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Maybe to some, but that doesn't minimize your stake in anything. We're all in this together.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

And to strike

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would join one if it happens. I feel like one of the best ways to strike is just to stop buying shit. The economy thrives on American excess and consumption.

[-] SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

A consumption strike is still a strike, and honestly could be more effective than a traditional strike.

The US economy is essentially completely reliant on consumption at this point, it's the place where we have the most leverage.

It's also very easy for an authoritarian regime that is inbound by law to retaliate against traditional strikers. It's much harder to force us to consume.

It also doesn't have to be zero consumption, by loca, but used, use cash, barter, and trade.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

We need to heavily reduce consumption anyway. Remember the three Rs? Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. The first two quickly got dropped, recycling took off for a while as it was the more profitable and easiest to shift blame onto the consumer while maintaining consumption. Then we all learned very little could be or was being recycled, it was just being dumped elsewhere. Excess buying is one thing totally under our control. Maybe a better society can also come out of it.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This is probably the only way a general strike in the U.S. would ever work. Employers are draconian, and nobody wants to be the first to risk their neck at their workplace for a normal strike.

The problem is organization, and keeping everybody to it for more than just a few days.

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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

So you think people are going to pass on the last Christmas of We The People of the United States of America? You’re not wrong in your method but it’s like trying to get your workplace to unionize when they’re running on inertia, fear, and conflict avoidance.

Most people you know are conflict avoidant, sadly.

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh I know it. Americans as a whole are selfish, spoiled and cowardly. Guess they have to learn the hard way.

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

And it thrives on our LABOR

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Everyone should save as much money as they can and probably not play the stock market. I have a feeling 401k's are going to take a gigantic shit.

I have no idea what's going to happen. I hope none of this happens. it's just a very pessimistic gut feeling.

[-] kittenzrulz123 27 points 1 week ago

GENERAL STRIKE JAN 6

The voices of the workers will echo throughout the entire globe. Find a local left wing organization, organize, and when the day comes we fight like hell.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Jan 20. If we do Jan 6th, those who can't hold out will go back to work 2 weeks later, and Trump will get credit for ending Biden's strike.

[-] kittenzrulz123 6 points 1 week ago

Jan 6 for those who can hold out and Jan 20 for those who cant

[-] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It did not even take 5 posts for this global general strike to be split up into two huh 😅

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

General strike on January 6th?

[-] kittenzrulz123 3 points 1 week ago

Yup, its time for a general strike. Spread the word to all

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

You won't even have to do anything, the Tariffs will.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

And the loss of labor in the agricultural, construction, food service, and hospitality industries.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Let's do it. Start the plans. Make the sticky posts. I'm about it. Just tell me what I need to do.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's the beauty, you do nothing. Jk, no it starts with spreading the word but also ensure every one you tell that you have them. We need to come together and it will cost. Let them know we are in it together.

List of demands:

1 Biden expand the supreme court unopposed.

2 Federal legislation enshrining abortion rights, gay marriage, and decriminilizing Marijuana.

3 Legislation to expand Medicare and make it single payer.

60 million can't beat trump at the ballot box but they can beat anyone who dare try to oppress them.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Is there a petition? A news letter? Anything for us to use all this anger and despair on right now?

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

There is your voice. Jan 6th. Stop the coup.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Okay but we need actionable plans before January if we plan on being any sort of opposition.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Why strike when you can unionize?

Start building small unions for blue collar roles that focus primarily on employment protection, rather than pushing salaries high. From there, as the cost of living increases, push for a percentage increase that aligns, and strike fully if those demands aren't met.

If Trump wants to block migration, then forming unions would be the defining legacy of a Trump administration. He can't go for cheap foreign labour, and he can't remove domestic...

[-] whithom@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago

Woo woo housing market is gonna craaaaaassshhhhh… just in time for me to leave the country to avoid persecution. Crap.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is no greater strike then completely removing yourself from this nation. If you voted blue you were 10x the economic power any red state has ever offered.

[-] bluejay@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Removing yourself from the nation? So your idea is to just remove what blue voters are left? Also do you have sources to back up your claims about economic power? California is a massive powerhouse but many other blue states just aren't. Like Oregon.

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[-] whithom@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

That’s a good point. I’m out!

[-] bluejay@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Bullshit like this always pisses me off. You look at the comments, no plan, no organization nothing but more pretty words. Keyboard jockey neo-liberals.

If you want to "resist", go outside and organize with existing groups and participate. Don't just talk about how cool it would be if we "stuck it to the man" and leave it there. Just saying "we should strike" doesn't mean a fucking thing. Lots of people, myself included, can't afford to strike. I could lose my job, then my home. Get real dude. Don't just make half assed posts without any plans or actionable steps to jerk yourself off.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bullshit like this is the exact reason we fail each other every fucking day. I'm asking you to lift others up and all you can do is put me down. I'm not special but I'm 10x more then you'll ever be.

[-] bluejay@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Then do something. Get off your keyboard and do something. Prove me wrong. Please, I want you to. But you won't.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

A general strike will take a lot of planning. I'd estimate that an intense organizing campaign over the span of a year could make it happen, if all the organizers are willing to set aside most of their personal life for that time. Add an additional year if the organizing committee cannot make that commitment. If we start the planning now, it could grind the Trump economy to a total halt in q4 2026, peak profit for most companies.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

It doesn’t work unless you can cover the costs of all the many people living paycheck to paycheck.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, precisely. That's what all the planning is needed for.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Waiting for things to cool off is the one sure fire way to make sure it will never happen. Anyone tempted to subscribe to this belief has already in their head given up their freedom. Has already resided their fate and is ready for the new world order.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not saying this out of ignorance. I'm a professional organizer. I'm telling you that a strike without planning is like jumping into the deep end without learning to swim. The strike will fail if things aren't prepared first.

ETA: all said, if you want to start organizing this strike I will help. I absolutely agree, a strike is really the only tool left in our "peaceful protest" toolbox.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Occupy Wall Street is a perfect example of this. It may be too old for some to remember now, but the fire was there to do something, people showed up. Because there was no organization, no central message, lots of in fighting on why they were there, it totally failed. People were there interviewing active protestors, asked them what they are protesting and what the demand for change were, and they had nothing.

A lot like MAGA crowds. The difference is that MAGA has organization, not for the messages (which can be all over the place), but because it's a cult of personality.

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[-] bluejay@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

This is a take I actually agree with you on. Complacency is this country's biggest flaw and why shit has cranked so hard to the right. But people need leaders with plans and social skills. In the same breath of saying inaction is deadly, so is unorganized action. That's how movements die. Remember occupy Wall Street? Favorite example.

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[-] 100@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

votes for the candidate openly talking about plans that only help the rich become richer

how could this happen?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Strike? Better make it quick.

When Trump fires and replaces the NLRB with loyalists, you’ll lose the NLRA that defends your right to strike. Without that, you’ll just get fired for job abandonment.

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