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Nah I'm going to blame 70+ million Americans who chose a racist, sexist felon, fraud, rapist fascist over a black moderate woman.
I blame the 70ish million who decided the whole voting scene just wasn't for them.
(And the misogyny. Holy shit the misogyny)
I'm sure misogyny also played a big role in her numbers. But if Harris firmly opposed any material or diplomatic support for genocide, then she probably would have won despite the misogynists, no?
No
There are not 5 million people sitting around who give a shit about any of that
The 70+ million who voted for trump would have voted him despite anything. They could have leaked the video of trump raping a 12 year old and they'd all still vote for him.
The only voters to blame are the 16 million who voted in 2020 and sat this one out.
No you still blame the people blindly voting for the orange idiot. If he didn't get votes and support he would not have won. You can't just write off his voters as blameless wtf.
Blame them for what? Kamala losing? Cause that was their goal and that's how elections work. I'm not writing them off as blameless entirely but it's not their "fault" that trump won because that's what they were aiming for.
Why did they sit this one out? Whoever's job it was to get them excited about voting and get them to vote failed here... I'm not saying this one was, but if the next election was between Trump and Cheney, I'd probably just stay home too... If that's how 16 million people saw this election, that's on the Dems for not figuring out what would change their minds... Or figuring it out but choosing to ignore it
You think they care?
You and I are the ones dealing with the fallout, not them.
Fuck the people who didn't come out. Period.
That's why I said "the only voters". Of course Kamala is to blame as well and the DNC for stiffing us with a mediocre candidate and Biden for dropping out so late.
The problem was the one-third of eligible people who didn't vote, the people who wanted an immaculate president, and when they didn't get it, took a stupid, petulant moral high ground. Abstention and voting in protest only helps the enemy.
Anyone who thinks the Gaza situation or the treatment of muslims will improve under Trump is a fucking moron.
This is nonsense sorry. Polls shows 50:50 split between Dems and Rep, but the reality is 1/3:1/3 with 1/3 of the electorate and disengaged. The voters aren't the problem, it's the fucked up 2 party system which has been massaged by both parties over many decades to prevent any competition.
Why should voters feel loyal to either of those parties? Don't blame voters for not wanting to chose between two crap choices. To many, both the Dems and Reps are the enemy. Why expect them to care if one side or the other think there is an existential crisis in the shitty system they shaped?
I think people just want a president who doesn't materially support genocide. If that is too high a bar, then your country deserves what it gets.
So they’d rather have a president who would support a genocide even more. Seems like a great decision.
Also, there were other issues at play in this election. Even Bernie Sanders said so
Lol no "they'd" rather have a president who doesn't materially support genocide, but seems like that wasn't something people were allowed to vote for.
In other words they didn’t want to chose the lesser evil so they were fine with either option
Amazing decision.
Or, it could mean they weren't fine with either option? "We're not quite as evil as the other guy" isn't the campaign slogan you seem to think it is.
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Glad to hear you liberals finally outright say arabs and Muslims are fucking morons and took a petulant high ground instead of.... Voting for their own genocide.
You all continue to improve you're just as racist as red maga, with more condescension.
If your choices are between honest genocide and dishonest genocide I guess people will choose the side with more virtues.
Since when are people who facilitate fascism my allies?
How did you misread that this meme implied Harris was your ally?
I blamed the DNC
https://democrats.org/contact-us/
You can put a made up email as long as it fits the xxx@yyy.com scheme.
I told them all to resign and congratulated them on chasing the mystical moderate all the way off a cliff
Blame the Democratic party and Joe Biden. They didn't put anyone serious up during the primaries against him, they held out from replacing Biden until the last minute and then they lumped Harris with his campaign and no time.
Biden should have stood aside last year (as many voices pushed for), and then the party's best and brightest should have been given the chance to be the candidate. It might have been Harris, who knows, but whoever it was would then have had the whole of 2024 across the primaries to establish a profile and narrative and tackle Trump.
And maybe a fresh candidate could have broken through on the most important topic to voters: the economy.
It's wild how for months leading up to the election there were reports and reports on how the economy is doing great. People who pointed out that they weren't seeing it personally were belittled as not understanding the big picture. And now this election was lost because of economy - one side that I guess didn't say too much about what could improve (there was a lot on Harris' site and policies about it, but I guess that was too much for voters). And the other side who said the same thing as before, "going to have a beautiful economy, the greatest ever seen. No one knew it could be so good."
Well, let's do another four years, see what burns down this time.
Yeah, because foreign policy decisions should definitely be made based on poll numbers.
I don't like our unconditional support of Israel, but this is a bad take.
So your take is America shouldn't be a Democracy when it comes to how we interact with other counties? Bold.
That's exactly my point. We are not a democracy where every decision is put to a poll (especially not a poll made by some private group).
We are a representative republic where we elect leaders who are trusted to make decisions on policy in accordance to their beliefs and stated policy positions when they were elected.
If you think we live in an absolute democracy, that's pretty bold.
So your take is Americans should have even less control over foreign policy than they already have and they should do so by not holding politicians accountable for foreign policy during elections? Why else would you propose politicians ignore the public on foreign policy issues? It seems like you want less democracy.
So in your view, she bears zero responsibility for promising to continue foreign policies that remain deeply unpopular among her own voter base? She was aware this was an election, right?
Yes, they should be. What the fuck are you talking about about?
Everything should be decided by poll numbers. That's the point of democracy, to vote for polices and decisions. If more people recognize we did a genocide and want us to stop doing said genocide a presidential candidate that wants easy votes might want to pledge to stop doing a genocide.
I have to disagree. Like if most people were asking for more genocide, you should still not do genocide. Morality/ethics always need to come first.
But of course that doesn't matter here, seeing as both the people and the ethics are in agreement that genocide is bad.
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the democrat leadership is to blame. i bet they'll run further right with republicans next election cycle. nowadays it seems they dont care about policies anymore, all they know is just running around shouting things like "abortion!" "trump bad".
This is a shit take.
She lost because she's a woman.
She was never running against Trump. She was running against equality and misogyny. And she lost. In 2024, she lost to misogyny.
Jfc.
Shiitake 🍄
Over the last years I have watched identity politics breaching the leftist movement. I swear its a tool of the capitalist as its worked so well.
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And the efforts of foreign influence.
The best part is she could’ve even lied to get the votes. It’s not like it’s unprecedented.
100%.
And Americans say where they lived is primarily based on climate change, but then move to the worst areas for climate change. I don't give two shits what people say.
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