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[-] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

The 70+ million who voted for trump would have voted him despite anything. They could have leaked the video of trump raping a 12 year old and they'd all still vote for him.

The only voters to blame are the 16 million who voted in 2020 and sat this one out.

[-] HandBash@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No you still blame the people blindly voting for the orange idiot. If he didn't get votes and support he would not have won. You can't just write off his voters as blameless wtf.

[-] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Blame them for what? Kamala losing? Cause that was their goal and that's how elections work. I'm not writing them off as blameless entirely but it's not their "fault" that trump won because that's what they were aiming for.

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why did they sit this one out? Whoever's job it was to get them excited about voting and get them to vote failed here... I'm not saying this one was, but if the next election was between Trump and Cheney, I'd probably just stay home too... If that's how 16 million people saw this election, that's on the Dems for not figuring out what would change their minds... Or figuring it out but choosing to ignore it

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

You think they care?

You and I are the ones dealing with the fallout, not them.

Fuck the people who didn't come out. Period.

[-] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's why I said "the only voters". Of course Kamala is to blame as well and the DNC for stiffing us with a mediocre candidate and Biden for dropping out so late.

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