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[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

They made a deal with the devil, and now they panic because they need to pay up.

[-] Rilichu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The GOP gladly let their party turn into a cult and very few cults manage to live on after its leader is dead/no longer viable.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

If they lose everything after, the court has little power. They can just change the laws. As it stands, the court has lots of power as they struggle to change laws with house and presidency changing back and forth.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

A true rival conservative party, one not devoted to religion, could break through if one existed. I do think the shift is actually left and progressives will form the next second party and the Democratic Party will be the moderate / right party in the future.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've been planted in the center for a long time, but an anti business left is growing. I personally don't see long term success, I do see young support for breaking things up.

[-] davi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

they've been ready for him; that's why most republicans very publicly kiss his ass; all in the hopes that they don't draw ire when he is inevitably made ineligible to run.

[-] davi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

these engagements always go the same way, so here's a copy/paste from somewhere else:

since you’re clearly digging in your heels; i’m going to try to undercut your next arguments since they are always the same three from the deeply ignorant liberal crowd:

  • biden recently defended his decisions on all three plus multiple more shitty decisions; so it doesn’t matter how long ago he said it or made those laws.
  • biden refused to change his mind all the way up until his presidential campaign and has a solid history of changing his mind but only once it becomes politically convenient for him; so he didn’t “evolve” or get better, he just knows that trump is weaker on this topic and uses your ignorance about his past of truly horrific anti-lgbtq/black/poor history to get your vote.

Additionally: no, dunking on gays for easy politically points in the past wasn’t popular, many politicians (eg bernie sanders) never did it.

  • his beliefs are the reason why he’s not bothering to improve anything, especially on the student loan debt. also: yes there are many things he can do even though congress is trying to block him; but he won’t do it no matter what. (google these too)
[-] Zombiepirate@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“For Republicans, the only hope is that when Trump is on the ballot in 2024 … he will turn out rural voters at a rate that overwhelms that phenomenon. It’s certainly possible,” the source said.

Isn't it funny that the only "hope" for Republicans is to re-install a vile, amoral, nepotistic, habitually-lying, tax-cheating, proudly-ignorant, racist, fascist, rapist con-man who tried to overthrow the government?

Wait, not "funny," the other one...

Stupid.

[-] gameboyhomeboy@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I feel like if Trump isn't on the bill due to legal issues there's going to be a coordinated effort amongst wackjob republicans to write him in, resulting in some interesting results in the states that are traditionally a tight race.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Write-ins aren't allowed in some states. In others, they still have to be a registered candidate.

I think Trump will likely be on the ballot in most states, but I think there's a small chance he won't be in Georgia.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It’ll be him. He’s polling above 50% in the primary and every indictment has only further solidified his support amongst conservatives.

[-] aircooledJenkins@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Can't win primaries without Trump, can't win general elections with him.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Those who support Trump are not a reflection of the values Americans have, but a darkness that America has surpressed since 1865.

[-] willis936@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And will happily continue to suppress as hard as necessary.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Are you threatening us with a good time? ;)

[-] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Surely they have searched the depths of their party to find the best candidate and this traitorous con man was the best that they could do. JFC there is no need to be a republican anymore.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

You ask yourself, what do conservatives want in a President? They want people they don't like to suffer. They want to feel like their way of life is superior to any other and to not be confronted about it. They want to be able to inflict pain and suffering whenever the feel annoyed.

[-] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They want a King. Conservatives are largely people fit to be ruled. You give them too much credit, they are not cruel and evil, they are scared and pathetic.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'd argue cruel and evil are derived from scared and pathetic.

[-] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The fear is the root, which can be hard to accept because its more human and relatable than evil which we want our opposition to be.

[-] lordxakio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Same thing that happened last time. Everyone knew Hilary was becoming president, and everybody was shocked when it wasn’t.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I knew Hillary wasn't winning the moment she said she was running.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My cognitive dissonance prevented me from realizing it would be trump somehow despite my not believing it would be Hill-dog...

I'm sad and embarrassed to admit that I voted third party on that one.

I also never imagined so far ahead to think how shitty trump would be if it actually went that way.

"Fool me once... Can't be fooled again"

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no!

... Anyway --

[-] shuzuko@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

All that says to me is that we need to do our damnedest to keep him away from that nomination. I'll be voting in the R primaries next spring, at a minimum.

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