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Xfce 4.20 Pre1 Released (alexxcons.github.io)
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[-] abbiistabbii 3 points 1 day ago
[-] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 22 hours ago

did they release a changelog?

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

IIRC, they expect to have it released in the first half of December if there are no issues or delays.

[-] user@lemmy.one 16 points 2 days ago

I ❤️ xfce, dying for Wayland. Wish I knew how to ninja together xfce Wayland. As most apps are now compatible.

[-] ianhclark510 3 points 2 days ago

please no, XFCE is my last refuge for machines too old to support Wayland

[-] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

you understand that you can still use x11 with KDE or gnome right?

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

They're not killing X11 support, don't worry. They're just expanding to Wayland support.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

I am running Wayland on my 2013 MacBook Air. Joe old is your hardware?

[-] ianhclark510 1 points 1 day ago
[-] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

A lot of Wayland compositors have a GLES 2.0 renderer which should be supported by ancient GPUs. If you try Vulkan based compositors you might be out of luck.

[-] Sustolic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If I am not mistaken the GTS 450 should be more than powerful enough especially by Linux standards.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Xfce is mostly used on older hardware. Dying to see how many times slower it'll become on Wayland. I'm guessing 3x.

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

In my experience, projects going to Wayland actually improves performance and system resource usage. I got around 200Mb RAM back, when I switched from Qtile X11 to Qtile Wayland. 900Mb on XOrg, 700Mb on Wayland. These are with the same configuration and the same programs being autostarted.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wayland does improve performance but only in some perspectives (for example, UI smoothness). In my case the negative impact looked like CPU overhead. It was easier to make the system stutter and some apps like Firefox worked more sluggishly. I suspect it's because of how Wayland works fundamentally.

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

CPU overhead

I highly doubt you can conjure up a Wayland compositor that consumes more than 1% of your CPU, even eye-candy nightmares like Hyprland will not have any significant CPU usage.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I know and htop didn't show 100% usage either. It just felt like CPU overhead.

[-] Karmmah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago
[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Because I tried Wayland vs X11 on older hardware and sometimes it was noticeably slower?

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Other way around

[-] user@lemmy.one 3 points 2 days ago

blasphemy! Off with ur head! 🤣

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Off with your head for supporting the accessibility nightmare that is Wayland :)

[-] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

What do you mean by that? I've been using it in Plasma and haven't had issues with it. Then again my use case might be different.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[-] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago
[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

I believe that tells enough.

[-] HeyLow 15 points 2 days ago

I hope there are a few dank wallpapers for the meme

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Wait but it hasn't been 2 years yet!

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