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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

No amount of endorsement or support will ever stop the democrats from shitting on bernie. Bernie doesn't even want to replace capitalism, he wants to save capitalism from itself. But even that is way over the line for blue conservatives.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Bernie doesn’t even want to replace capitalism, he wants to save capitalism from itself.

Roosevelt style liberalism only works when you have a full blown leftist movement to triangulate against. Sanders doesn't have anything like that to leverage. There is not Eugene Debbs running from prison with a million voters backing him up.

Of course, it should be noted how much Harris lags Dems in every swing state. He's really hauling dead weight here. And it's not helping his own popularity.

[-] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

It is of my opinion that individuals that don't vote in the upcoming election are complacent to the atrocities occuring.

I feel that this occupation is just repeating every few years since '87.

[-] PyroNeurosis 2 points 4 hours ago

You hear that Mexico! You're complicit!

/s

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

No no no. I was told by some terminally online Republicans that everyone in Mexico is voting and that's the only reason Trump will lose California.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I pet this complicit kitty that was super cute the other day.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 5 hours ago

"If you don't vote, you vote for the winner."

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Stand against genocide by compromising on genocide! Trust me bro, you don't understand politics like I do.

When will Dems give up this elitist gas lighting. It's starting to get embarrassing.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Normally anybody who says "you've only got two choices" is an idiot.

Or, they could be describing a democracy crippled by first past the post:

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

Watch the video, it's six minutes, fun, informative, and changes things. It's so central that without this video's info as the centerpiece of the discussion, the discussion really is not happening. We need ranked choice to get third parties.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 5 hours ago

The phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" was coined to mock the sort asanine bullshit that grifters spouted, and eventually those same grifters started to use it unironically and without any self-awareness.

Interesting to see "trust me bro" get the same treatment.

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Are the Trump supporters in the room with us now? Is the entire UN assembly grifters. Liberals are so disgusting, children are being slaughtered an masse by my tax dollars but all you care about is how Trump will make you personally uncomfortable

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No, I care that Trump will make more of my tax dollars go into the children slaughtering enterprise.

You're the one arguing about not doing something because it makes you uncomfortable, not anyone else here.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Is Bernie Sanders a Democrat elitist?

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

He's shilling for them, so it's a distinction without a difference.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Why would Bernie Sanders shill for elitist democrats?

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Probably because he's a Zionist. Don't give me that "he supports a cease fire". He only did that long after this genocide started.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 27 points 10 hours ago

AOC had a similar response on Pod Save America.

You win political influence by being a crucial part of a win. You lose political influence if your political opponents are in office. The best chance to have your voice heard on Israel is being a crucial part of a Harris win.

That is the calculation.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

AOC calculations indicate that she supports corporations over the rail union workers.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 5 minutes ago

If AOC's too Capitalist for ya I got bad news about 95% of America.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

And your calculations are you get off of losing and even people who agree with you on almost everything aren't good enough to stop you from trying to lose more influence.

[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 8 points 8 hours ago

Yep.

I would recommend folks watch this 20 minute video on Rules for Rulers from CGP Grey.

Despots, Presidents, CEOs, Deans, Homeowners Association Presidents, the guy who runs the open mic- at the end of the day they have to follow the same rules to maintain their power. The zero'th rule in the video is "without power, you affect nothing".

I'm voting for Kamala, and I'm voting down ballot for any pro-palestine candidate. I want to send the message that in order to get reelected, she will need to change her stance.

When I see people not voting out of protest, they are giving their opposition the influence over their elected officials. Remember, they work for you, and voting is how you let them know what you want.

[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

This is what thinking people do, given the cureent choice. Good on Bernie! Shame on the narrow minded twits.

[-] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

Honestly wish we could've had Pete Buttigieg running still. Already voted for Kamala in a red state, but honestly hope she stops cozing up to the Cheneys and Israel. We need to focus on infrastructure, housing, and healthcare more than any other issue as they are the basic necessities everyone needs!

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