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[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago

One important thing K-9 does that this doesn’t: realese on F-Droid.

What is this? At least provide a repository like DivestOS… while you are at it, get the code for the free software off of proprietary Microsoft GitHub.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 14 hours ago

The post says they're working on releasing to F-Droid.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

How on Earth do you lose this support in the handover shuffle—especially knowing the audience a third-party email client? I would say it shouldn’t be released if F-Droid support isn’t there since it isn’t something you would want to back-burner.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it's an issue on F-Droid's end, as it's always a few days behind for all my other apps that get released on the play store as well. IIRC they have a release process that involves them compiling the packages that takes a while to run.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago

Android 8.0 💀💀💀

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Is this worth it or is it just K9 with a different name? Like does it really add anything

[-] Avero@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

From what I've seen in the changelog its basically the same, beside the branding and donation links/IAP

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

It looks better imo

Also you will have to check whether k9 will still receive updates

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 day ago

Thunderbird for Android 8.0

When can I get it for android 14? End dad joke.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 20 hours ago

I get the joke, but also I was shocked to see in the article:

Thunderbird for Android runs on mobile devices running Android 5 and above.

Who out there is still running Lollipop?! That came out over a decade ago. You can't even get Thunderbird through the Play Store because Google Play Services dropped support for 5.1 back in July. I have so many questions.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I mean Thunderbird on windows always looked like it could work on windows 95 so I'm not surprised

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

After waiting years for this I ended up using FairEmail, which is absolutely amazing. I'd have a hard time switching to something else at this point.

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

Only that FairEmail looks like an ancient elephant... I tried to use it, but found it pretty complex.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

The devs description states that it's intentionally minimalistic visually and focuses on advanced features. FairEmail is way overkill for someone with a single gmail account for example. At the time that I found it, FairEmail was the only client that met all of my needs. Like managing multiple accounts, each with multiple folders and none of that unified nonsense. It's also available on F-Droid and GitHub.

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I've been fairly happy with K9 but if they are about to Mozillify it, I will check out FairEmail.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

I don't understand the downvotes. Mozilla's new CEO is questionable at best. He's been stuffing ad-related nonsense into Firefox since he assumed.

[-] electricprism@lemmy.ml 7 points 17 hours ago

Is Mozilla that involved in Thunderbird? IIRC their revitalization happened more under The Thunderbird Foundation after Mozilla put them out to pasture to die after years of neglect.

[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Last time I talked about Thunderbird here on Lemmy (and was downvoted because, allegedly, Thunderbird and K-9 are the exact same app, according to android@lemmy.world), I seem to recall it was however mentioned one of the differences between the two is that Thunderbird was going to include setup for Google play subscriptions (whatever that is)...

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

They mention it in the article, but I think its purely for donations, so you can subscribe to donate on a monthly basis

[-] gramgan@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

🥳

Been looking forward to this for a long time—K-9 Mail is an excellent mail client, but this is one step closer to Desktop/Mobile sync.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

Doesn't IMAP sync anyway?

Been using Thunderbird and K9 for years. All is the same on both.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Unfortubately I am locked in to protonmail :/ otherwise I'd love to use it, looks great

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

wait a hot second, do protonmail not support IMAP??

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

There is apparently a way to set up a bridge that will allow you to access it, but that sounds like an awful lot of work. It also requires connecting to a PC running the software, and I would imagine it affects the security of the messaging (which may be the reason to choose proton mail in the first place).

https://proton.me/support/protonmail-bridge-clients-windows-thunderbird

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm in the same boat - with them for the encrypted email, but it does hold me back from using third party apps on mobile. Hopefully they get an easier way to use third party apps on mobile. Will probably just end up being a mobile bridge app or something

[-] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

They have an app though, do you not like it?

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

It's pretty but feature-deficient and not very pleasant to use compared to third party email apps imo

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Thx! That's for desktop. The bridge is alright. There's no major drawback to it afaik. But this is news about android. Thunderbird bought k9mail

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The bridge just creates imap/smtp servers, so you should be able to add it to thunderbird on Android.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's very good to know, thx! But that means I have to run the bridge on my server, open the ports there etc. , right?

[-] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Edit: just tried this and it didn't work. Proton bridge only listens on 127.0.0.1 and doesn't accept incoming connections due to security concerns.

If I were in your position, which I am and will probably end up doing this, is vpn into your home network and just connect to the local IP of your bridge server.

WG tunnel on F droid allows for you to auto connect to your wireguard server when you leave your home net, and auto disconnects when you get back on your home net.

Personally, I'm unsure if proton bridge listens for external request or if it only accepts requests from localhost? If that's the case it may be an issue.

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[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Why locked? Proton mail does'nt have a protocol?

[-] exu@feditown.com 9 points 1 day ago

No IMAP/SMTP support with ProtonMail. You have to run their bridge application locally to get that functionality.
IMAP/SMTP does make their encryption at rest impossible, AFAIK similar providers like tuta don't have those either.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago
[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yes. Calendar is even worse. There's no bridge at all. Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

That's a hacky approach ngl. Security would've left the chat the exact moment they had a thought about doing that in their heads. Proton is a known company. Imo developing their own protocol is a good decision if they can't make the existing one work properly at all.

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[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Just downloaded the apk. Thanks for the heads-up!

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

As I already said on Mastodon, I'm surprised how good the app looks. Couldn't expect that from Thunderbird.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 21 points 1 day ago

It's actually K9 mail with a new name. They went over to the Mozilla foundation a year or two ago.

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thunderbird 128 ESR has a really nice/modern look. Besides, if you don't like the default look, you have plenty of themes to use with.

[-] dRLY@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Anyone know if they plan to add other parts of the desktop version to the Android version? Would be nice to see at least the calendar. The RSS stuff would be cool too.

[-] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

I think I remember reading some comments in a previous blogpost that it wasn't really in the near-future roadmap at least. I think there are a couple good android calendar apps without needing Thunderbird to port that. RSS sync would be great though, I'd love that too.

[-] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Great news!

[-] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Does it support schools microsoft exchange ?

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Seems unlikely - I believe Office 365 disables third-party email clients by default these days

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[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder how much the success of Thunderbird affect Firefox

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Note that -

Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird

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