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LOL why are they calling it "shoplifting" this isn't some bored kid stuffing a shirt under their clothes. This is an organized raid.
They even mention the use of bear spray. That alone turned it from being shoplifting to a robbery. Since now there's the inclusion of violence and/or threat of violence
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It makes me laugh how many people think this is a new development only in CA and in 2023.
This happened back in the 90s to my mom while working retail. Like 10 people came in and carried off the furniture they had in the store, because they knew the employees were instructed not to do anything.
Shit like this has been happening all over the US for decades, the media just decided it was the hot new topic to get more clicks recently. Even the Walgreens CEO who said theft was so awful they had to close a bunch of stores later admitted they "cried wolf".
Rich people love the idea that theft is out of control in the media because it gives them a talking point to keep us peasants in control. Starbucks was charged by the labor board for closing down unionizing stores under the guise of "safety concerns". Starbucks isn't the only place that has been pulling that shit.
And that's not to say I agree with 50 people bear spraying people and stealing luxury shit either. This isn't someone stealing food from the grocery store to feed their kids. It wasn't billionaires working in the store, it's people working a shitty retail job for shitty pay no doubt. But it is a topic being overblown for rich people's benefit.
The biggest theft is wage theft. But nobody cares because is ok to stole from someone that is poorer that you.
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Same energy as people bitching about the homeless in SF and Portland. It's like have you seen our downtown bro, there's a tent city
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This isn't someone stealing food from the grocery store to feed their kids.. But it is a topic being overblown for rich people's benefit.
How is it overblown? It is a real issue with law enforcement in America. People are being permitted to destroy and steal property. We need to get to the root cause of what’s going on their. It’s due to failures on multiple fronts. You can’t just say ignore it because capitalism bad. Capitalism is a founding principle of this country’s economy. You can’t play the card that these people are protesting corruption because others are enriching themselves by stealing goods. That’s not noble in any way and doesn’t help employees.
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It's also "over $100k" if you believe that cheaply made stuff is worth that price.
Nordstrom is a store I go to when I need a laugh. Their prices are the peak of comedy.
My Ex used to work in Saks 5th Avenue, so I would often browse around while waiting for them. I once saw a short sleeve button up shirt on the clearance rack that I really liked. It was $175 after the discount. I never seriously shopped in there after that.
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"Keep those wages low, the poors will never do anything about it"
The mace part isn't great but otherwise I say go get it.
This is nothing compared to what these corpos stole from us.
And how they treat the laborers that make the clothing.
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Your comment is on the nose.
I have had many arguments with people over the fact you shouldn't want to shoot someone over property. I'm a gun owner but I don't carry a gun and I don't believe a life is worth less than property. The amount of people I know who carry a gun and have said they would shot someone for stealing is incredibly high and troubling.
I don't know if it is a direct result of the daily dehumanization of ethnic groups and criminals we are bombarded with all day long everyday or if it is much more complex but there is a real problem in the US when large groups of people don't value other people's lives.
Once you use threats and violence to steal other's property, you open yourself to bodily harm. Simple as.
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Imagine being an oblivious shopper trying out clothes in the change room, eventually coming out with your selections, only emerging to a store that looks like a hurricane went through it.
Unintentionally direct action
Good for them.
No, fuck them for harming somebody.
I can't muster up sympathy for security guards who work at an obscenely wealthy mall.
Edit: Let me clarify, these men are paid to use violence to protect the interests of capital.
When have you ever seen a mall security guard use violence?
When have you ever seen a mall security guard that isn’t overweight or retirement age? Or both?
They carry live weapons in some cities, but more often they carry pepper spray and tasers. They also work with the police to incarcerate people who threaten the profitability of the stores on the property. State violence is still violence, the most cowardly kind.
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The biggest form of theft is wage theft, and bear spray is a helluva lot better than some alternative methods.
Please do not downvote people you disagree with if they're contributing to the conversation.
For better or for worse, I think this ship has sailed.
The kids grew up learning heists on gta online, I for one approve of this well coordinated maneuvering against the establishment that steals from its people every day.
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