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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 138 points 4 months ago
[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago

broken clock tho

[-] Wicked4wesome@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

All you need to know about Dave Ramsey: i worked on his Jaguar XK.

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[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

He's right for most people first beginning to improve their financial health. He has probably gotten more people out of debt than any other 'guru'. If that's a hack, so be it, it works.

[-] AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

He once fired a pregnant employee because she wasn't married and therefore must have had premarital sex. They've fired 9 people for pre marital sex. Wacky

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[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Nah he’s alright. There is no nuance in his advice but for the majority of his listeners that’s probably a good thing.

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[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 4 months ago

In this land of legalised extortion in the form of insurance my friend who is in his mid 30s and been driving over a decade with no claims has to pay £700 per month.

My mum wanted to add my sister (again mid thirties and driving for nearly 20 years now with no claims) to her policy so she could borrow her car for a week and then maybe use the car once a month if that and they wanted an additional £1000 a month for the privaledge.

Fucking scum.

[-] marble@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago

Per month?! Wtf are you driving? (Late 40s here, paying around £400 per year for my electric mini insurance)

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

My bad, i wrote per month but i meant per year, that was my mistake. He is driving a 1.4 turbo new shape VW Scirocco (sp). My mothers car is a 1.3 Citroen C3 so hardly expensive, luxury or even quick cars. Even £400 is disgustingly over priced in my opinion though, the way this country does insurance is vile.

Australia's system of buying registration which then covers your basic insurance (third party cover) which is like a tax and insurance cost combined for the car is much more logical, then if you want to you can buy additional fully comp cover for the car none of this insuring per driver per car bullshit.

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[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Assuming you begin investing at the age of 20 and invest $554 per month for 45 years at a 6% growth rate, you would yield 1.4 million. Definitely not MILLIONS.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 17 points 4 months ago

And then you add the inflation and you actually just owe money. Got to get that third job at 65

[-] Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

6% is very conservative though. Even at 7%, which is a widely accepted inflation adjusted number, it's over 2 mil.

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[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago

What commonly goes unsaid in these conversations of insurance cost is the immediate disputes that occur with the provider.

Why am I paying tens of thousands a year to engage in an argument when making a claim?

[-] Humana@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I was once rear ended at a red light. I was knocked unconscious and the driver drove off. A few kind witnesses called police who took a report. They got half his plate imprinted on my bumper, but never tracked him down. I had State Farm, and I was even paying extra for the "uninsured driver coverage". They said they couldn't cover it because until they had another driver's information I was automatically at fault, even with the police report and witness accounts. They said it didn't count as uninsured driver because it's possible the guy had insurance. I was flabbergasted.

In the end I had a concussion and needed to take time off work for recovery and my short term disability insurance ended up suing State Farm because they didn't want to pay for my medical treatment. State Farm agreed to cover medical care but only if it was recorded as my fault and I paid my deductible. In anger I tried to switch insurance companies but found out they have a shared database and since it was recorded as a hit and run my fault, nobody else would take me. And State Farm jacked my rate up 30%...

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I realised in a similar, though less detrimental, encounter that true insurance comes in the form of dash cameras. For the equivalent of an insurance payment or two, a high fidelity video of the entire vehicle surroundings can be had.

Honestly though, with a few witnesses and half a plate, it's a surprise they couldn't find the car that drove into you. Decerning the colour, and style of car, surely it'd be only a handful of vehicles matching both the description and the numbers.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 21 points 4 months ago

That would require a cop to do more than the bate minimum, so its just not gonna happen.

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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 months ago

You are not kidding!

I got a motorcycle and paid for insurance. When someone stole my bike and police caught the guy and put it in the impound, my scummy ass insurance called me to go see if it's okay? Like bro, that's your job.

Then they said if I was willing to sign a contract that the bike was fine without allowing me to see it. I said no.

Finally they gave up and wrote me a check for the cost of the bike.

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Goes to show how strange modern life is that it was easier for them to cut a cheque than send someone down there. Happens all the time unfortunately. I wonder if someone at the impound lot rode it home.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Not a motorcycle, but my car was hit (along with several others) by a guy evading the police. I wasn't even in it, we were in a city and cars were parked along the street, and he came over a hill, ran a red light, t-boned someone, and then bounced against a bunch of cars down the street.

When I got the police report, I filed a claim with my insurance, which was the same insurance company as the criminal. They originally told me that, "There were 7 vehicles involved in this accident, and other vehicles were damaged much worse than yours, so we're not sure if his policy will cover all of the damage... So we'll have to file the claim under your policy, you'd just have to pay your deductible."

Absolutely not, I told her. "Well Sir, you have to unders-"

"No, ma'am, YOU need to understand that your customer's inability to be a responsible citizen is NOT my problem, and I am NOT having my premiums go up, or paying my deductible, when I did absolutely nothing wrong." After escalating to a manager and giving her an earful while threatening to drop my policy with them effective immediately, they miraculously realized his policy would cover the damage to my car. Easy day, right?

Now, I'll be honest: The damage to my car was completely cosmetic, but I was poor and could have really used some extra cash, hence why I was pursuing it. Well, brought the car in to be looked over by the insurance folks, and the assessed damage was like $800. Cool, I asked her for my check so I could go home.

"Oh, well, Sir, you still have a lien on the vehicle, and normally we would send it to your bank, and they would tell you where to go and then pay the repair shop."

Oh, cool, well, that's not what we're doing, I already have a shop lined up, I said, but needed the money for the parts.

Big tall dude comes over, also an insurance employee, as the woman and I are going back and forth, and he chimes in and goes, "Well, Sir, y'know, typically the bank holding the lien wants to handle these things, and, y'know, if the repairs aren't made and they repossess the vehicle, you could owe the repair costs."

My response: "Huh, fascinating. Sounds like a conversation between my bank and I, and with all due respect, I don't understand who you are to have that discussion on their behalf."

"Just cut him the check," as he walks away.

I fucking hate insurance companies.

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[-] vomitaur@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

here's me, a grown ass adult with a car i paid off like 4 years ago - nothing special, a smallish commuter POS that gets 40mpg that i literally use to drive 4 miles to work and back.

i was paying about $630/year because i pay for a year at a time, and it'd be almost double that to pay monthly, like what the actual fuck? anyways, a few months ago i get this email from the insurance company telling me "hey get ready your policy will renew in 3 months, be sure to double check your payment method" so i log into my account and they were gonna raise my premium to $970/yr and there was literally no obvious way to see that they were gonna do that. it was a case of logging in, going through multiple levels of menus to get to the future policy, download a pdf of that policy, then view it offline.

well, i'm pissed, so i call them to find out what the hell they're doing and why and they claimed it's because i had gotten a speeding ticket. of course, they had zero information to share with me about that speeding ticket - no ticket number, no date/time, no address, nothing. i sure as hell don't recall getting a speeding ticket, and in any case, with a spotless driving record, you'd think there'd be some kind of interfacing with me about it, but no. they claimed the ticket was real and i'd need to contact my DMV to find out more.

so i call them, the DMV, and after some hassle, find out they have ZERO record of any speeding ticket. so.... back on the phone with the insurance company and they just wanna give me the shaft and the runaround no exceptions. i mean, i'm pissed now because it's OBVIOUS fraud, right? Anyways, i get absolutely nowhere. so i tell them to cancel my policy and i woulda thought about contacting a lawyer about a possible case or something but, naw....

i still have the car, and it's parked being unused. I swapped to riding bikes to and from work, sometimes an ebike, sometimes a fixie, and i'm the only cyclist on the road around here that I've ever seen and it's sometimes really sketchy. but i plan to ride through the winter, dry or snowy, i don't care.

it can get complicated, because i'm a single father, but honestly, fuck auto insurance, fuck cars, fuck car brain. we gotta make a stand at some point and I lament that we can't really do it collectively.

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[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

sure, maybe. but FUCK Dave Ramsey.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

Dave Ramsey is an out of touch asshole though.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 months ago

some people care DEEPLY about what kind of car everyone drives. that's literally why overpriced cars even exist

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Memes circulating with this dude right now, even if positioning him as a chud, are a way to launder this dude as just a legit money guy. Sure, he has some basic, broad financial advice you can consider if you can see through all the Jesus and have no other options, but more than anything else, he's a vile human being.

Eat religious shit dave ramsey.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Millions? I don't think so. There is no investment that would turn $30K or whatever into millions that was safe enough to work for the majority of people. But it would be a significant help.

That being said, for most people, the amount you'd spend to live in a place where a car isn't needed or constantly paying for ride share or taxis greatly exceeds the amount you'd save by not having a car for the vast majority of people, and that's not even getting into the ableism issue.

And sure we could get into buying a cheaper, used car or whatever, but in the long term the maintenance costs, having to buy another car sooner, and other financial risks to cars outside of warrantee over a lifetime will add up similarly unless you're really lucky or can repair your own cars.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

$554 a month at 5% growth is $440k after 30 years. So yeah not millions.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

S&P averaged about 10% over the last 30 years. That means it would be over 1.2 million.

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[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

and that’s not even getting into the ableism issue.

Infrastructure that requires people to drive is far more ableist than the inverse. As many people with a disability can't drive at all (or driving is a significant challenge).

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And sure we could get into buying a cheaper, used car or whatever, but in the long term the maintenance costs, having to buy another car sooner, and other financial risks to cars outside of warrantee over a lifetime will add up similarly unless you’re really lucky or can repair your own cars.

Buying a low-mileage used car and even paying for a shop to do the maintenance is almost always cheaper than buying something with $500+ monthly payments. I don't actually agree for the most part with Dave Ramsey (even about the entirety of this post)...but he's correct that it is cheaper.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

The whole, where do you live thing is super important. The last time we moved my wife and I were very adamant about a specific maximum commute length in car, or a length by transit. And getting somewhere to live that was easy to commute from. We compared the price including mass transit commute at the max distance to anything we were getting closer with the commute included from there too.

The differences were absolutely significant. Many places were cheaper to live an hour away, even with car payments, insurance, and gas. That's absolutely ridiculous and part of so many problems from climate change to motor vehicle deaths.

We need to enforce mixed development, the people who work in an area need to be able to afford living in that area. Pushing the workers out should not be acceptable.

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

As a pedestrian, I'm glad not to support big bike chain lube, I'm saving dozens of pennies annually

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Oh, you're one of those shills for the shoe-leather industry! 😜

[-] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

If you pay 500$ a month for 30 years at 5% interest compounded monthly you would contribute $180k and would have $416,129 so not really a million. You would need a little less than 9.5% interest to get a million. 2% interest is only getting you $246k which when you take into account inflation 2-3% normal average minus 5% one of the higher realistic interests that is what you are actually making .

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Spoken like someone who's long since stopped worrying about having to commute without mass transit available.

If mass transit is available and reasonable then yeah, go off. But otherwise please stop blaming the victims of Capitalism.

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It drives me crazy when i get spam that says they can save me money on my car insurance

O rly? How you gonna beat $0?

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[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago

Wtf does your neighbor drive that insurance is $350 per month on it? A Ferrari?

Male under 25 with anything over 150hp will make you pay a fuck ton.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 13 points 4 months ago

I thought the same. Also it's much higher for young males under age 25. Tbf testosterone is a bitch and that demographic causes a lot of the most extreme preventable accidents.

Which ironically encourages people to ride bikes! If only that were not nearly a suicidal activity in the USA in so many places... 😢

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[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I paid $830/month for a moderately priced car at only 2.9% for a few years. 1/3 my current yearly salary in full. It wasn’t smart, but I beat inflation at that rate. That car let me and my wife travel so much in our early marriage and it was so worth it. The car is more expensive now then when I bought it.

I love that car and it brought me joy. It’s paid off now.

Tomorrow is not promised. Save for the future but don’t neglect being happy today. Go live a little.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Honestly if someone were to have said that garbage to him 40 years ago he prolly would have called it unAmerican and communistical.

It is weird to watch the ethical scoliosis happen in real time over the decades.

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Insurance payments for teenage boys are INSANE. $100-150 is the usual but my buddy is paying literally $300 a month on a year 200X Tahoe that he bought for $700 and fixed himself. Its the cheapest option on his families insurance and his parents won't let him switch.

That's not even payments that's INSURANCE.

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[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I prefer to ride my bike. I have a little trailer so I can take my dogs with me. That said, I also have a car. It's paid off and my insurance is about $60 a month.

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