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Signups opened this week for Loops, a short-form looping video app from the creator of Instagram alternative Pixelfed, reports TechCrunch.

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

The first round of applications are for ios only, android has to wait, would have liked to have known that information before I spent the last week waiting.

[-] Schmerzbold@feddit.org 45 points 4 days ago

Hmmm…

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[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Welp thars a hard no.

[-] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Surprised they're not asking for peoples' firstborns.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

At this point, it's sounding more and more like a social experiment.

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[-] precarious_primes@lemmy.ml 280 points 5 days ago

Maybe I'm just old, but I traveled by plane recently (I don't fly very often) and seeing everyone around me mindlessly scrolling short-form video content was shocking. Looked identical to the people in the space ship in WALL-E.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 256 points 5 days ago

Dude, it's the airport. It's boring as fuck.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 133 points 5 days ago
[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 107 points 4 days ago

Maybe the next one won't be boring though

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago
[-] crowbar@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago

One more video and ill stop

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago

Millions upon millions disagree. Some people are alcoholics and some people can enjoy a drink now and then. It's the same with short form video content. Not everyone is an addict and I like that I can search something and actually get answers instead of an article or 10 minute video begging for subscribers and 1/3 of the video being an intro.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 45 points 4 days ago

TikTok quantified the precise amount of viewing it takes for someone to form a habit: 260 videos.

Kentucky authorities note that while it might seem a lot, TikTok videos can be just a few seconds long.

“Thus, in under 35 minutes, an average user is likely to become addicted to the platform,” the state investigators concluded.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/g-s1-28040/teens-tiktok-addiction-lawsuit-investigation-documents

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

For what it's worth, getting in the habit of making excuses for one's use is part of alcoholism.

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

They should go do a crossword puzzle and get off my lawn.

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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

You can have tons of fun at the airport as long as you don't mind getting on the no-fly list.

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[-] precarious_primes@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago

Fair, but I traveled for a music festival and saw lots of people pulling up their phones to get a few hits of TikTok/insta when there was a small lull in action. And most of them were with friends. Just enjoy your surroundings.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago

What tf you want them to do?

I don't see how reading magazines, what people used to do, is any better.

[-] whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

I’m not an expert, so take this as far as you’d like — reading has real benefits to our brains such as improving vocabulary, improving critical thinking skills, and improving focus. I don’t think short form videos give us the same brain benefits.

Here’s an article from Piedmont health on the benefits of reading. I haven’t seen such an article for short form videos, but am open to it if there is one.

https://www.piedmont.org/living-real-change/health-benefits-of-reading

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago

You don't see how reading is better than watching a video?

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[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 days ago

TikTok is popular because it's addicting, not because it's useful, so I don't understand why anyone would use this.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

TikTok is popular because it’s addicting, not because it’s useful

TikTok is profitable because it is addictive. But the idea that short-form video is less useful than print or radio is flawed.

I don’t understand why anyone would use this.

For the same reason someone would turn on the TV, download a podcast, or pick up a magazine.

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[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 140 points 4 days ago

I don't think TikTok community is compatible with the idea of fediverse

TikTok exists to give you large floods of endorphins via either an algorithm trained to your interests or by giving you big numbers. And this is not exclusive to TikTok, this is just how modern "social" media works, it's the sole reason why bluesky succeeded more than mastodon

Modern social media is mostly a hive mind of people affirming each other driven by algorithms. Fediverse on the other hand, always boils down to a old fashioned usenet style network made just so people can talk with each other. You can't really get addicted to fedi

I wasn't really alive during the wild west internet (im 19). I got into the net during the transition from forums to modern social media and reddit was my first social. I tried getting into facebook and instagram because everyone else was there but I just didn't like it much.

I don't know why but "the algorithm" is really boring for me. I only tried algorithm driven feeds on reddit (after u/spez) and on tumblr but the recommendations were always extremely "fake". Other sorting methods like "new" or "by most active" just feel more like as if there was someone on the other side of the keyboard

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 115 points 4 days ago

You can’t really get addicted to fedi

Hmm... anxiously eyeing my Lemmy post history...

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I’m not as addicted to Lemmy as I was with Reddit, because there aren’t as many comments and niche communities and an algorithm messing with me, but like I check Lemmy throughout each day and if I’m honest there’s not much purpose aside from getting that hit.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

An interesting point, that a lot of younger people might not know: social media wasn’t always like this.

When I joined facebook around 2008-09, it wasn’t algorithm driven, there weren’t even ads. You had a chronological feed of your friends’ interactions, so you could see if someone posts a photo, comments something, or shares a stupid quiz. It was a very-very different feeling compared to what we have now. It was useful and practical, but the enshittification killed it.

I would never sign up for something like this today, absolutely useless - only reason I’m still there is the messaging app, which I use daily with most of my friends/family.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

ITT: People in their mid-twenties or later, who feel superior to those that like one form of media over their preferred media.

Elitism aside, I don't really see what federation solves here. What benefits does federation offer the user? How does the recommendation algorithm give users what they want? How will a decentralised platform perform the kind of centralised events a platform like TikTok is known for?

[-] Waryle@jlai.lu 18 points 4 days ago

ITT: People in their mid-twenties or later, who feel superior to those that like one form of media over their preferred media.

You're just waving away an important fact, which is that shorts and their equivalents are notoriously known for killing attention spans and disrupting the management of dopamine in the brain, causing depression in particular.

We are no longer simply in the traditional custom of the elderly who despise the activities of the younger generations, we are talking about health.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A distributed service is much less vulnerable to being bought up by a single narcissistic billionaire who can ruin the online experience of millions of people at once.

A distributed service like Lemmy is spread out over 600 Instances in countries all over the world. If someone buys the most popular Lemmy Instance and wrecks it, those users can simply move to the same communities on the second or third or fourth most popular Instance and the original Instance will wither and die. This also works for communities with power tripping moderators. You can quickly find out through a search which community is the "real" one by the number of subscribers it has.

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[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago

Ignoring the myriad of other issues listed in this thread, the bit about training AI is pretty misleading. It's not hard to scrape webpages for whatever kind of data you like, even if loops doesn't outright hand things over for third parties for that purpose.

And the kind of people who are downloading the entire internet to train AIs are the type to be willing to just scrape without permission.

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 13 points 4 days ago

They are claiming not to train AI using your videos/info theirselves. I don't think it's misleading just because other people can scrape that info.

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[-] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 66 points 4 days ago

My problem with tiktok/reels/shorts is not that they aren't federated. It's the entire format/concept I hate.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago

I think I might like them better if they didn't auto-play. I hate anything that auto-plays.

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[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 77 points 5 days ago

They don't have to sell or provide videos to third parties, because they can just do it themselves.

That's the nature of actual federation. It's not private.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 days ago

Very cool that its federated but to be honest i just dont like this kind of short form content. I ratherd watch a youtube video.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 10 points 4 days ago

My biggest problem with short form content is I want to pick what I'll watch based on the uploader, title and thumbnail, not be algorithmically fed videos I may or may not be interested in. All of the video providers are going straight for the algorithm so I have zero interest.

The algorithm won't know what kind of content I'm in the mood for so I want to be in control to choose. The algorithm also likes to try to feed me content by some creators who aren't worth my time and I don't want to watch one second of their videos

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[-] mark@programming.dev 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not interested in the short-video concept. But I like the name, though. Short, sweet, doesn't sound too "techy", not too complicated to pronounce or spell.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Awesome! This sounds like a much better way for me to share the occasional video of either or both of my dogs being super cute on c/dogs (and on other non-Lemmy forums) than relying on an anonymous YouTube account.

(I may have partially used this post as an excuse to share a video of one of my dogs being super cute.)

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Bröthër, whërë ärë my lööps?

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago

Isn't it just a Pixelfed instance but yellow?

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