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submitted 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) by VinesNFluff@pawb.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I don't mean BETTER. That's a different conversation. I mean cooler.

An old CRT display was literally a small scale particle accelerator, firing angry electron beams at light speed towards the viewers, bent by an electromagnet that alternates at an ultra high frequency, stopped by a rounded rectangle of glowing phosphors.

If a CRT goes bad it can actually make people sick.

That's just. Conceptually a lot COOLER than a modern LED panel, which really is just a bajillion very tiny lightbulbs.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Ice. As time has gone by, it has become less cool.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

Before transistors there were vacuum tubes which did the same thing but using very different principles (and were also way bigger, even than traditional transistors and billions of times more than the transistors in the most modern ICs)

Before electric milling or even steam milling, flour used to be milled using watermills and windmills which, IMHO, are way cooler.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

My mill grinds

pepper and spice

Your mill grinds

rats and mice

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago

The internet

[-] francisfordpoopola@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This may not apply, (as I know I'm simply saying a commercial product got worse as it had revisions) but Jawbone's first earbud/headset used a small rubber conductor to evaluate skull vibration for noise canceling ( and likely there was some ANC using incoming mic audio from external sources). They continued to include a rubber bumper but I think the device leaned more on incoming audio from mics rather than from the rubber bumper. The oldest device presented the best noise canceling even after 3 product changes. I used every version until they stopped making headsets. I miss my Jawbone. I still have my OG.

[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Aah.. Boomer bait, we get that a lot :s

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 31 points 6 hours ago

Oh man...I have an entire ten page paper on the go about this topic and it just keeps growing. One day I'll publish it in a blog or something, but for now it's just me vomiting up my thoughts about mass market manufacturing and the loss of zeitgeist.

The examples that I always use are a) Camera Lenses, b) Typewriters, and c) watches.

Mechanical things age individually, developing a sort of Kami, or personality of their own. Camera lenses wear out differently, develop lens bokehs that are unique. Their apertures breath differently as they age No two old mechanical camera lenses are quite the same. Similarly to typewriters; usage creates individual characteristics, so much so that law enforcement can pinpoint a particular typewriter used in a ransom note.

It's something that we've lost in a mass produced world. And to me, that's a loss of unimaginable proportions.

Consider a pocket watch from the civil war, passed down from generation to generation because it was special both in craftsmanship and in connotation. Who the hell is passing their Apple Watch down from generation to generation? No one....because it's just plastic and metal junk in two years. Or buying a table from Ikea versus buying one made bespoke by your neighbour down the street who wood works in his garage. Which of those is worthy of being an heirloom?

If our things are in part what informs the future of our role in the zeitgeist, what do we have except for mounds of plastic scrap.

[-] upandatom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Just wanted to say thank you for writing this. Very cool take, that was so well written to get us on board for how and why "that old junk" has personality that is being lost.

Also

Damn.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Awww shucks. Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Damn.

Not much to say other than -- "Damn."

You're right, though.

[-] chrizzowski@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago

Old camera lenses are awesome. I've got some steel and glass rokkors that are beautiful. They render in such a wonderful way too, so painterly. They have thorium in the glass! Not enough to be sketchy to use but something that obviously isn't done anymore. Bonus points that they can be fixed with a hammer.

Old camera stuff in general is subjectively cooler. The leaf shutters in my 4x5 lenses are incredible little machines. Film in general is cooler than whatever sensor the latest and greatest has. Actual bits of silver suspended in emulsion, with colour filters and dye couplers that react in development. There's a great three part video on YouTube breaking down Kodak's manufacturing process. It's mind boggling that stuff even works. Ohhhh and actually darkroom optical prints! Don't get me started there!

I'm going to develop some rolls I think. Got me in the mood.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I have a couple of 80s Rokkors that I use with a speedbooster on my lumix g9, a 50mm and a 35mm. Despite having to do some math in terms of converting things like focal length, etc... because of the adaptor, It's WELL worth it.

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[-] nicerdicer@feddit.org 13 points 5 hours ago

The technology behind telecommunication.

Today everything happens inside your router, fast and silent. My father was a telecommunications engineer. When I was a amall boy (late 1980s) he once took me to his workplace (it was in the evening and he was supposed to troubleshoot). What today fits onto a few silicone chips inside a router took much more space back them.

I was in a room that was filled with several wardsobe-sized cabinets. Inside there were hundreds of electro-mechanical relays that were in motion, spinning and clicking, each time someone in the city dialed a number (back then rotary phones were quite common). It was quite loud. There also was a phone receptor inside one of the cabinets where one could tap into an established connection, listening into the conversation two strage people had (it was for checking if a connectiion works).

I still remeber the distinct "electrical" smell of that room (probably hazardous vapors from long forbidden cable insulation and other electrical components).

So when you dialed a number at one place with your rotary phone, you were able to move some electro-mechanical parts at another place that could be located somewhere else around the globe (hence long distance calls).

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago

Pop up headlights! Way cooler that way. I've heard a couple reasons given for why they stopped being a thing, but one of them is that they were considered too unsafe for pedestrians-

Which is a fucking crazy though when you consider what we now blindly accept in automotive design with respect to pedestrian safety 😅

[-] nicerdicer@feddit.org 10 points 5 hours ago

Yes. I'd rather smash my femur at a pop up headlight while lounching over the engine hood than being dragged underneath an SUV street tank and being squashed.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Yep! The height and slope of the car's front end is actually one of the leading predictors of health outcomes for pedestrians involved in motor vehicle accidents

https://youtu.be/YpuX-5E7xoU?si=xLLhl4Gb-Yt6lmvh

Now please give me back my cute flippy headlights 🥹 they make me happy and they're not even up during the day when you're most likely to encounter pedestrians!

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I drove a '94 Ford Probe for awhile, it was already 15 years old when I bought it, so I had been hearing stories about the shoddy reliability of flip up headlights for years at this point. Imagine my surprise when I never had any issues with them then, even while living in northern Minnesota. I remember one time after a particularly bad ice storm, turning them on and watching them shatter the ice on my hood and send pieces flying while popping up just the same as always. I loved that car and wish I'd had the money to keep it going.

[-] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ah, but at night is probably when you are more likely to actually hit a pedestrian. I wonder if the stats back up that intuition...

Edit: also, yes pop up headlights are way cooler.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 55 points 8 hours ago

Cars used to be cool. Every car company had some kind of sporty car, a couple cheap cars, a big luxury sedan and, a while ago, a station wagon.

Now every car is an SUV or CUV. Sedans are getting phased out. Cool sports cars don't make money so they don't make them. People don't buy station wagons so they don't make them. And they're pushing big, angry trucks on everyone.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I'm tired of fuckin hatchbacks, I just want a regular car, not an SUV, not a truck, just, a fucking car car.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

I'd like it if hatchbacks could be hot again and not SUVs. Ford Focus, VW Golf, those sorts of things.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

And we can't get small trucks due to a loophole in EPA regulations. I just want something like an old-school Ranger, light, easy on gas, two jump seats in the back for the kids.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

The old Ford Rangers were definitely not easy on gas, and those back seats were extremely unsafe. But we could absolutely have trucks that size now that are fuel efficient and safer, and I would buy one in a heart beat. Hell, I tried to buy a Maverick but it's been impossible every year and now they don't even come with the hybrid drivetrain standard so I've lost interest.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I've got another one: Airplanes.

There used to be crazy designs and a lot of variation between planes. Tandem seats, swing wings, dual tailplanes, gull wings, all sorts of crazy design choices side by side. Even commercial airplanes had lots of variation. Trijets with tail stairs, engines embedded in the wing roots.

Planes now all sort of look the same. Every fifth generation fighter looks the same. Granted, this is because they're hitting physical constraints of aerodynamics and stealth, but that limits the creativity of the designers.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

Also they were fun and comfy and shit and the TSA wasn't the TSA

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 36 points 8 hours ago

The internet?

Web 1.0 and even before was way cooler than this corpo bullshit web we have now.

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I feel like you don't actually remember what web 1.0 was like. Or even bbs's. They... kind of sucked. I mean they were great for the time, but compared to the internet of today, pathetic.

[-] dotslashme@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago

You could try Gemini or gopher web, it reminds me a lot of web 1.0, both style and community feel.

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[-] Platypus@lemmings.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Portable consoles. They're dead now or replaced by indie shit. No, the switch doesn't count, if it can't fit in my pocket isn't portable.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 7 points 6 hours ago

The indie shit is great tho. Analogue Pocket is an outstanding gaming device to run a whole bunch of portable console games (and some originally non-portable consoles too, like Genesis/Megadrive)

And folks are still making and sometimes even selling Gameboy games right now in 2024

Indie is great, and honestly vital when so much mainstream/AAA shit is such shit

[-] Platypus@lemmings.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't wanna deal with crappy controls or needing to install and research roms online

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 2 points 2 hours ago

controls are very very good and it's intended for use with cartridges. no roms needed - hell it's actually a little extra effort to run rom files on it.

https://www.analogue.co/pocket

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

I think indie is pretty cool. Its at the point where you can basically design a console by yourself. You can emulate up to ps2 on some of them so you got all the classics in your pocket.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Counterpoint: A modern SBC Console from China (Retroid, Anbernic, whatever) will play a library in the thousands of titles, WHILE fitting in your pocket AND having a modern screen.

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Countercounterpoint: Emulation is not as cool as the real thing. Especially for the PSP because it was basically a tiny DVD player.

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[-] psion1369@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

I'm going back to video games that had multiplayer before we had network connectivity. If I wanted to play against a friend, we would have to get together in person and hang out. Game was done, you had a friend over for dinner. Or just a friend to come over and help you with the game. I miss when games were actual social events.

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[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Pre LCD/LED tech for numeral displays. Nixie tubes kicked so much ass, shame they are hard and expensive to source now.

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