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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[-] Volkditty@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Maybe not start but I'm sure there're groups that have encouraged her to keep running over the years. Eyes picture of her at dinner with Putin, other Russians and Flynn who Trump pardoned. Though I'm sure there're good reasons for her to be in that picture that aren't shady...I expect a lottery win about the time they make sense.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 6 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure plenty of people asked her to run as president, given she's the most uncontroversial candidate from any party and is more qualified to be president than pretty much anyone else.

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago
[-] FancyManacles@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

To draw votes away from the Democratic party nominee at the behest of her Russian donors. NBC News Link about the infamous dinner.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Stein has already been cleared of colluding with Russia. Your image is ten years old.

The reason you might not be aware of this is the /Politics mods banning people who debunk it.

[-] FancyManacles@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

You're right, it was 2015, but as a simple layman I was aware of Russian meddling by the time this dinner happened. So if Jill and the Green party weren't aware of how bad this would look, and how worthless an olive branch to Putin would be, then at the very least they're too incompetent to be worth a vote. Unfortunately I did not know about this gaffe by the time of the election and even voted for Stein in that election, which I still regret.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago

I dunno, I didn't exactly see a ton of value in those posts.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

No one is even talking about past collusion accusations. We are talking about right now.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It would be helpful to not leak a ten year old image in a seven year old article if there was evidence. Do present it.

If Stein was truly colluding with Russia the Democrats would have had a legal foot to bar her from running. And they would not need to make up crazy conspiracy theories which rely on censorship.

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Everyone I don't like is a Russian asset, the Democrat's guide to political discussion

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

It's not even funny calling you people blue MAGA anymore. You're not different enough to warrant the modifier.

[-] prole 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Where has Jill Stein been for the past four years? Do you think this is what politics is? Disappearing from public view (only popping up to dine with autocrats), only to show up when it's election time? Do you think this is how legitimate political parties operate?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Where has Jill Stein been for the past four years?

Where's Kamala or Trump been? What's your point?

Disappearing from public view (only popping up to dine with autocrats), only to show up when it’s election time? Do you think this is how legitimate political parties operate?

Absolutely deranged. "the news I read didn't give something page space therefore it doesn't exist"

Like I even give a shit about Stein and wasn't just making an observation about how your brain is broken with Rachel Maddow conspiracy theories.

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Literally, they were both out campaigning for their party's candidates in elections in 2021, 22, and 23

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I like BlueAnon, personally

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I know, but what is she getting out of it?

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Money and a chance for power, obviously.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 2 points 9 months ago

The already successful medical doctor probably int doing it for money. She'd just run as a dem if she wanted money.AOC has 10x'd her net worth by grifting horny liberals that want to pretend they're left wing.

[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Attention. Whether or not you agree with her, getting paid to cruise around the country telling people what your political views are is a pretty sweet gig

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

cruise

It sounds soul-crushingly exhausting

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

My take:

To demonstrate that there is a more leftist population in the US public than is regularly recognized and shift the entire discussion in that direction.

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

To oppose the highly organized far right.


No, I won't vote for her this year. But I can appreciate the above goals.

[-] prole 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

This is not how you do this. You don't disappear and pop up for a few months every four years. That is not how a legitimate political party operates.

She clearly does not give a shit about making the Green Party a legitimate alternative.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

To beat the duopoly

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To not have the kompromat that Putin is holding over her be released publicly?

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

This is an interesting take

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I have no evidence to support it, besides her ties to the Kremlin that have already been widely reported on (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jill+stein+russia).

GREEN Party = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I have no evidence to support it

WOW YOU DON'T SAY

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

WOW I DO SAY!! Literally, you even quoted me saying it...

It sure would be par for the course and explain QUITE a lot about Jill Stein and her behavior/comments regarding Putin, Russia, and Putin's political enemies in the USA. Good thing I'm just a random person on the internet posting an opinion. Feel free to dismiss my opinion, and we'll see what fraction of a percentage of the vote she receives in November lol

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Lmao what are you doing right now? Puffing your chest out over a third party candidate not being viable?

The subject is your use of ~~Alex Jones~~ Rachel Maddow unhinged conspiracy theories to fill in the gaps between your horrible nazi ideology and your positive self image.

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[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

FYI the green party is now openly admitting that their goal is to prevent Kamala Harris from winning the presidency.

The election has already started. Absentee ballots have been sent. We need to catch up rapidly. We need everyone here to get active. We need to be clear about what our goals are. We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I’m tired of hearing about Shit Stein every 4 years

[-] daltotron@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

I dunno about this shit I'm probably just voting PSL.

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