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The mayor of one of the largest cities in southern Lebanon has been killed in an Israeli airstrike that hit the city’s municipal headquarters during a meeting to coordinate aid deliveries to residents and those displaced by war.

The strike, one of a series on Nabatieh on Wednesday morning, killed 16 people and wounded 52, the Lebanese health ministry said. Howaida Turk, the governor of Nabatieh province, said members of the provincial capital’s crisis committee were meeting at the time.

It was the most significant Israeli hit yet on a Lebanese state institution since fighting between Israel and the Lebanese Shia militia Hezbollah broke out a year ago, and followed a week of intensifying aerial bombardment across Lebanon.

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[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 138 points 1 month ago

This is what they do. They specifically target civilians, civil institutions, journalists, aid workers, aid orgs, and essentially any target that causes suffering amongst the civilian population. Israel is terrorist state, and it's time they were treated as such.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 66 points 1 month ago

No you don't get it, HAMAS was there! They're in the schools, they're in the trees, they're in the dumpster, they're in the basement and in the garage, they're in the soil and in the wind, HAMAS is the sun and the moon, they're everywhere!!! It's their fault we have to bomb everything! We'll never be safe until we nuke the entire planet! HAMAS is in me! AHHHH!!!

[-] sol6_vi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

HAMAS is in me! Title of IDF's sex tape?

[-] And009@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, my personal space

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is horrible. What was ostensibly the target, the article mentions nothing about that.

The strikes defied what Mikati had told Al Jazeera just a day earlier were assurances given by the US that Israel would reduce its attacks on Beirut.

...Does the US have any credibility left when it comes to assuring others what Israel will do?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Nope. That was gone months ago. All they've done for most of a year is repeat whatever Israel says. Even when Israel immediately makes them liars.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What was ostensibly the target, the article mentions nothing about that.

I think even the Israelis are tired of lying about it. Why even bother anymore? The UN and iCC are more or less disbanded. The US shields them policially and militarily. The American leaders and voters of both parties are overwhelmingly on board. Even American college students are cowed. There is no resistence now and there wont be any in the next 4 years, across the globe. They can do and say whatever they want.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 77 points 1 month ago

Note how Israel isn't even at war with Lebanon. They're ostensibly at war with Hezbollah.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 88 points 1 month ago

"Lebanon is Hezbollah". The newest hit single by the IDF known for songs like "UN is Hamas" and "elementary school girl is Hamas"

[-] tiefling 47 points 1 month ago

Don't forget "Criticism is antisemitism"

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Hezbollah

A paramilitary organization that operations openly with the support of Lebanon and her people. Anyone at war with Hezbollah is at war with Lebanon.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Yup the 40 percent of Lebanon that are Christians support and aid the extremist Islamic political movement in their country.

Fuck off.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In what universe can a 100,000 man army launch attacks against your neighbor whilst operating out of your home country funded and manned by your nation and not be at war?

It would be like having the Texas national guard launching rockets into Mexico. The US and Mexico would be at war. Proxy war as a sub for actual war only works when you are strong enough your adversary is disinclined to respond to your provocation. Imagine hiring goons and visibly directing them to break your neighbors windows and thinking that you can stay out of the scuffle.

Critique Israel all you like and I do as well. I don't feel like Lebanon has any right to complain that Israel is striking them. They should commit to stopping the attacks and they and Israel should make peace.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

So while Israel is relentlessly attacking Lebanon, Lebanon should help attack itself and "make peace" with tze country that is bullying it, invading it and committing massacres there since 50 years?

And while all this happens it is also getting fucked economically time and time again, and because of the way it was carved out no political faction wants a strong army in fear it could become one sided. So building a strong national army is an extremely challenging task.

Israel and its allies are majorly responsible that Lebanon could never establish itself to the extent of being able to drive out Hezbollah.

It is like telling someone to "stop punsh himself" while forcing his arm and then also punshing with your own free arm too.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes any country that hosts a terrorist militia should both shut it down and make peace with its neighbors. Israel should offer peace in exchange for all hostages and a lawfully administered democratic Palestinian state protected by the UN but without arms for a period of time. Unlawful Israeli settlements should be ceded to this state.

All these things are worth doing and benefit everyone except hard liners on both side which have aspirations that range from unlawful to unrealistic.

Instead of achieving any extreme ends of either party the results of current strategy is likely to be a permanent state of suffering that will directly or indirectly harm millions. Their lifes and times are worth saving.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Problem is you need both sides to work towards that. Israels has made it clear time and time again that they have no onterested in any of that.

No matter which government. whether extreme right and fascist like Netanyahu or supposed center... They always continued the annexation of Palestinian land.

The only way your ideals could be made real is if the western allies pressure Israel into obeying, for which there is no indication. They didnt bother tp do so even with the Israeli crimes of the last year.

This is again very similar to how bad schools handle bullying. They blame the beaten up victim and suspend ot, for not having thought to resolve the bullying peacefully.

Also it is crucial to understand that Hezbollah is the result of Israeli aggression. It was founded to fight back the 1980s Lebanon invasion and decades of occupation by Israel.

Unless Israel is significantly disarmed and whipped into line, while Lebanon is given substantial developmemt aid, these demands only serve to tell Lebanon to roll over on its back for Israel to do what it wants.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Lebanon isn't the beaten up victim they are scumbags that host a terrorist army. If this specific conflict didn't exist they would still be a terrorist state run by a gang of thugs.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It'd be faster to count who among the goy is not Hamas.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 month ago

Holy shit. They are just cartoonishly evil now.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

A Lebanese priest, (yes Christian priest), described them hitting a church marked as, and being used as a refuge shelter on NPR. This is the same stuff we fell over ourselves to condemn in Ukraine.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

.So much for the lebanese govt or lebanese people trying to sit this one out and let Hezbollah get taken out. Israel doesnt see any difference between Hezbollah and innocent Lebanese. Not surprised. Israelis see all goyim, including christians, as animals.

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[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

don’t know what the fuck they even think left and right mean

When you figure it out please report back and let me know. I think taxation is the the biggest differentiator between left and right anymore, and they dont disagree by all that much. Finally the world can be united in peace and harmony. Trump was rght-- We wont even need elections anymore.

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