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submitted 2 months ago by petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Forgejo is a self-hosted lightweight software forge. Easy to install and low maintenance, it just does the job.

Forgejo v9.0 is the first version to be released under a copyleft license, after a year of discussions. Among the motivations for this change is the realization that a pattern emerged over the years, exemplified by Redis, CockroachDB, Terraform and many others. They turned proprietary because people chose their own financial gain over the interest of the general public. Forgejo admins no longer have to worry about this sword of Damocles: relicensing it as a proprietary software is not allowed.

The removal of the go-git backend is part of a larger effort to make Forgejo easier to maintain, more robust and even smaller than it already is (~100MB). When presented with go-git as an alternative to Git, a Forgejo admin may overlook that it has less features and a history of corrupting repositories. It would have been possible to work on documentation and new tests to ensure administrators do not run into these pitfalls, but the effort would have been out of proportion compared to the benefits it provides.

The Forgejo localization community was created early 2024 with the ambitious goal of gaining enough momentum to sustain a long term effort. A daunting task considering there are over 5,000 strings to translate, verify and improve. There has been many calls for help in the past and the community keeps growing steadily. Fortunately, the translation hackathon (translathon) organized by Codeberg in October was exceptional. It attracted an unprecedented number of participants who improved or created thousands of translations.

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[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Was this the git hosting service that wanted to have things like federated (in this case im talking about cross instance) cloning, searching and issue hosting?

I may be mistaken in general but iirc there was a hosting service like this that I found super interesting, especially in light of things like DMCA abuse against projects hosted on github and gitlab.

EDIT: seems like it is one of two, forgefed is a protocol it will use, activitypub one, very interesting.

[-] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago

Yes it is, federation work is ongoing. I think stars are in beta.

[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

very exciting indeed. can't wait to try it out when federated tickets and PRs are a thing.

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[-] o1o12o21@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Has anyone have personal experience moving off of gitea and using forgejo

I'd love to do this but it's hard to find any written experiences yet.

;Edit: I will probably just try it

[-] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Docker Gitea to Docker Forgejo was basically using a different image and pointing it to the existing database. Not sure if and when both will be different enough for that to no longer work. But I also only use it as a docker compose storage repository. No idea about automation etc.

[-] o1o12o21@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Cool, I will spend time on it. From what I see, v24 is when gitea and forgejo went their own routes.

[-] bert@lemmy.monster 17 points 2 months ago

I don't think I did more than spinning up the Forgejo container. Using the same db container and everything.

[-] o1o12o21@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Cool, did you use the built-in CI CD before or after the migration. Any trouble there?

[-] bert@lemmy.monster 3 points 2 months ago

No CI CD, sorry. Just like @JASN_DE@lemmy.world I use it purely to store/archive

[-] shirro@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago

I followed the directions and it worked. No issues and no regret.

[-] TVA@thebrainbin.org 7 points 2 months ago

For me, it was literally as easy as (this is basically my upgrade process too):

`

systemctl stop gitea.service

cd /home/git/

wget https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/releases/download/v8.0.3/forgejo-8.0.3-linux-amd64

mv forgejo-* gitea

chmod +x gitea

systemctl start gitea.service

`

I did it soon after the "split up" though, but it was super easy since they were still basically the same applications.

Make backups, update the above to use your paths and the new download link you should be good to go. Mine is in a VM , so I was willing to just YOLO and give it a go since I could easily roll back.

sorry for the formatting. on my phone and did my best!

[-] o1o12o21@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

This gives me a confidence boost. I don't have too many repos too. Thank you.

[-] TVA@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 months ago

You're Welcome! An extra safety measure might be to do a clone on all your repos to ensure you've got a local copy of them all and absolute worst case you'll have a couple of levels of backup plans, but up until pretty recently they were pretty much the same app just re-skinned, so, I think you'll be fine.

[-] Lem453@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Check their website for migration info. There are some caveats in special circumstances but more people can just change the docker image from gitea to forgejo.

I did exactly that with no issues.

[-] conrad82@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

if i remember correctly, i just replaced gitea with forgejo for image: in my docker-compose, and it just worked

it was a couple of versions back, so i don't know if that still works

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago

I don't know what a forge is and why not just use Git instead but good to see some more free software in our high seas.

[-] itslilith 55 points 2 months ago

Forgejo is a free/open source code hosting site like GitHub or Gitlab. It's a fork of Gitea, over concerns with management and commercialization. You might know it from Codeberg, which is one of the largest managed instances, but it's really easy to host your own.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago

So Codeberg uses Forjero? Then I like it already.

[-] cakey@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

As far as I know, they maintain and development forgejo

[-] unlawfulbooger 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It was new to me too, but a (code) forge is essentially a VCS server with stuff like a wiki and issue tracking. So think GitLab, GoGS/Gitea/Forgejo, BitBucket and all the others.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The original announcement isn’t even very long. Could you not have read it before leaving this comment?

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

I indeed haven't read the full announcement and I know comments like mine are annoying to some but it is what it is I guess.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I also read the announcement (and FAQ, and other pages) but was still hoping someone would comment on what it is exactly.

(I did guess along the right lines at least, but wasn't really sure)

[-] Kajika@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

yes bare git works just fine. if you ever want a web GUI and/or issues and Pull Request you want such a tool.

A web GUI can be very nice to share your repository publicly. You can also use codeberg.org if you can't or don't want to self host.

PS : I'm kinda shocked (not that much) by the downvotes or your legitimate and polite comment. Still looking for better communities/system.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Forgejo is like a self hosted GitHub. It expands beyond source control to include issue trackers, pull requests, wikis, publishing features and such.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Wait until people learn about mailing lists. It will blow there mind

[-] killthefish@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I know they have the phonetic spelling of the word in the repo but I still don't know how to pronounce forgejo

[-] dwzero@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

I don't know how to read the phonetics but they're going for forĝejo which is for-jey-o, so I'd imagine that's how it's pronounced.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[-] killthefish@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

that's a really good way to remember it, thanks!

[-] YodaDaCoda@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Any idea how forgejo compares to radicle?

I'm trying to decide what to install on my home server. I want something easy to start with but reasonably extensible and federated would be nice

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 13 points 2 months ago

forgejo is like github copy, and is a fork of the relatively known gitea. so far there are no federation features

radicle is something similar, but as I understand, with distributed repo management. I don't know the implications of this.

radicle also has an own cryptocurrency, and is entangled with web3.
while not all cryptocurrencies are scams, and probably the same applies to web3 projects, almost all of them are either scams, or useless for the purpose of using it as a currency. I don't know how the radicle currency fares, but it made me distrust them somewhat when they started talking about that in their announcement channel, and the fact that since then the channel did not post much else did not help to gain back this trust

[-] NGnius@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Just FYI forgejo does have federation, but it's disabled by default. No idea how good/stable/complete it is... https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/admin/config-cheat-sheet/#federation-federation

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

oh! last time I checked it was still just a feature request. This is cool, thanks!

I could only find this in the documentation of it, though, so probably it's being kept quiet for a reason: https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/contributor/federation-architecture/

the state of it can be tracked by looking at these issues and these blog posts

[-] flubba86@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How long does it take for the new features in Forgejo to appear in Codeberg? I suppose it's possible they're already there.

Edit: Codeberg is still on v8.0.3-53, but code.forgejo.org is on v9.0.

Edit2: Codeberg is now on 9.0 too.

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Is there a good summary of Gitea/Forgejo background somewhere?

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, overlook corrupting repositories? If I'm going to be trusting pretty much everything I ever create to a platform it better be rock solid

[-] SteveTech@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago

Well, aren't you glad they're removing go-git then!

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

The fact that was a thing in the first place scares me enough to not want to use it

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[-] TimeWalker@lemmy.foxden.party 1 points 2 months ago

To be fair, they supported two different git backends, one of them being go-git which was the one corrupting repositories. However, it was never enabled by default, you specifically had to build Forgejo with a specific tag to instead use that as the backend. If you just built normally or pulled ready-made containers or bins then it was always the default git backend.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, nice. Had been experimenting with using my Raspberry Pi 3B as my home Git server for all my personal projects - easy sync between my laptop and desktop, and another backup for the the stuff that I'd been working on.

Tried running Gitea on it to start with, but it's a bit too heavy for a device like that. Forgejo runs perfectly, and has almost exactly the same, "very Github inspired" interface. Time to run some updates...

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

It's interesting that Forgejo ran better than Gitea considering it's a fork.

[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

it was forked a while ago now though so the code bases can be quite different.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Doesn't take much optimising of disk writes to make things run much better on a Pi; they're quite capable machines as long as disk i/o isn't your limiting factor. Presumably the devs have been doing some tidying up.

[-] mfenniak@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure it makes much sense that gitea is a bit too heavy, but forgejo (a fork of gitea) runs perfectly. But forgejo appears to have more developments momentum as a project and so you probably landed on the right choice anyway. 🙂

[-] nef@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Do you use it for anything other than syncing code? Currently I'm using plain SSH sync for all my personal git repos, and I'm not sure if there'd be any advantage in switching to Forgejo.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

My workplace is a strictly BitBucket shop, was interested in expanding my skillset a little, experiment with different workflows. Was using it as a fancy 'todo' list - you can raise tickets in various categories - to remind myself what I was wanting to do next in the game I was writing. It's a bit easier to compare diffs and things in a browser when you've been working on several machines in different libraries than it is in the CLI.

Short answer: bit of timesaving and nice-to-haves, but nothing that you can't do with the command line and ssh. But it's free, so there's no downside.

[-] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Is it just another Gitlab clone?

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Lighter weight and they have made a lot progress on federation

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