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[-] halfwaythere@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Can you shoot? Can you move? Can you communicate?

Then who the fuck cares who you prefer to be involved with!? Especially when a lot of soldiers/officers seem to like to be with other people's wives/husbands!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

This is the same reason why women should be allowed the same combat positions as men. They still aren't and it's stupid.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 60 points 13 hours ago

“Since DADT repeal [in 2010], many veterans who sought to upgrade their less than honorable discharges reported a prolonged and burdensome process, often requiring the use of a lawyer, to seek the respect and benefits they rightfully earned,” the letter stated. “And far too many veterans discharged under DADT had no idea they could seek an upgrade or where to start the process.”

Austin said today that 96% of the service members who were separated under DADT now have an honorable discharge.

“We will continue to strive to do right by every American patriot who has honorably served their country,” he said.

Glad the Biden Admin proactively upgraded their discharge statuses so no more veterans have to fight to change theirs

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Drag hopes they also want to do right by the unpatriotic veterans who honorably served their country and in the process got disillusioned and radicalised.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Glad the Biden Admin proactively upgraded their discharge statuses so no more veterans have to fight to change theirs

Nooo! Shut up! We have to focus on the horrible genocide in Gaza, while steering hard away from the horrible genocide in Ukraine!!!

--all of .ml

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

They also don't want you to talk about the genocide those now honorably discharged veterans are facing in event of a Trump victory.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 64 points 13 hours ago

Congratulations to all of you!

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Not sure, who you are congratulating and what does love have to do with army related things?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'll give you a hint about who I'm congratulating then:

800 service members kicked out under [Don't Ask Don't Tell] just got discharges upgraded to honorable

As for what that has to do with love, I'm sorry that you don't understand what they told that they weren't supposed to tell.

Maybe you need to look up what Don't Ask Don't Tell was?

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You can read about the context of Don't Ask Don't Tell on Wikipedia.

Or the article itself also explains why the other commentator wrote that ;)

[-] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 48 points 13 hours ago

This should've been done sooner.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 47 points 13 hours ago

All justice should be swifter. I'm still glad some people got acknowledged.

[-] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago
[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 21 points 13 hours ago

They worked hard! They deserve to be appreciated!

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

What did they work hard on?

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

Conceptually I think this is great.

But... How many folk are now eligible to be recalled to active duty?

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago

Probably zero since this all happened decades ago at this point.

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

That's not how it works. To be recalled you have to still be in the irr. To be in the irr you have to re-enlist. You can't re-enlist if you're discharged for dadt. If they still qualify for irr they could of course sign a new contract but that'd be entirely their decision.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

If anyone becomes eligible for recall due to this discharge upgrade, it'd be a very small number and even then, there's next to no chance that they'd actually get called up. Can't rule it out entirely because something about a Sith and absolutes (and because I don't care to dig into the statistics) but realistically, it won't happen.

10 U.S.C. § 688 (Retired members: authority to order to active duty; duties)

...a member described in subsection (b) may be ordered to active duty by the Secretary of the military department concerned at any time.

(b) Covered Members.-Except as provided in subsection (d), subsection (a) applies to the following members of the armed forces:

(1) A retired member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps.

(2) A member of the Retired Reserve who was retired under section 1293, 7311, 7314, 8323, 9311, or 9314 of this title.

(3) A member of the Fleet Reserve or Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.

(4) A retired member of the Space Force.

This section states that retirees of armed forces branches and reservists may be recalled to active duty. The thing about subsection (d) refers to a program where officers could choose to retire early so doesn't really come into play for what we're talking about. It's worth noting that a service member who completes their contract is not necessarily a retiree which is why the recall authority doesn't apply more broadly.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I'm not aware of any mechanism to recall any former enlisted servicemember past their IRR period.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I figure if things get bad enough that they'd want any of us fat, broken old(ish)-timers back, we'll see some new laws on the books making it possible.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

DADT ended in 2011. The military would have to be pretty desperate to want most of those veterans back in service.

[-] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Bruh, if I got out and fulfilled my IRR honorably and whatnot, and then I was recalled years later, I would promptly smoke all the pot in reasonable distance from me the moment I received that recall notice.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago

I'm sure the existing draft covers it, but we'd be a long way down the list.

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