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[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 159 points 4 days ago

Trump absolutely obliterated profits from manufacturing with the steel tariffs. That's the whole reason that I'm struggling really hard right now. It forced me to order even lower quality steel because as the buyer, you're the one paying the markups. It isn't the affected country. This forced me to really put my limited metallurgical knowledge to the test because I had to ship critical components that wouldn't fail to the best of my ability. I had to adjust everything from tool paths to cutting times because they both affect the integrity of the material. I already had to charge way more for the parts I make because I'm not in India or China making $2/hr. I really hate to say it, but American made steel is just too expensive and I can get it from Japan for maybe 3/4 the price. China is even cheaper with nearly the same quality. And, no, I don't order it directly shipped. There are distributors.

I've been screaming at colleagues for years now that Trump has absolutely no clue about real world manufacturing or how it works. He wants to destroy NAFTA, which would absolutely destroy the supply chain I rely on for non-metallic (mostly glass-filled plastics) materials. I make a fair amount of G-10 and G-11 fiberglass parts for nuclear power - from GE, to Hitachi, WestingHouse, to (oddly) Mitsubishi. Want to talk about how nuclear is expensive already? Yeah, go ahead and erase NAFTA. It would go from improbable and financially impractical to absolutely impossible. Get an order from some local business to make some parts? You have to charge at least an estimate of $70/hour just for labor and machine time. With the tariffs, I've had to bump that to about $90/hour.

However, because the costs for me have gone up so much I've had to go from making money to paying to live. I have the skill, equipment, and knowledge to run a machine shop by myself. That orange fuck set it up that if I didn't already have well-established long term contracts, I'd be in a ditch after selling my dog for a month's worth of food. Trump knowing manufacturing, or how it impacts the manufacturers? Get the fuck out.

Sincerely, A trans woman that has been in manufacturing her whole life.

Source: Being a 20+ year career machinist.

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 43 points 4 days ago

Those tariffs did exactly what they were supposed to do. Push smaller competitors out of the market and allow price increases from the bigger companies. Even with those tariffs the price from China was still much cheaper, all he did was ramp up inflation. Literally no one won.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Same thing for the meat processing/packing laws in Denver, meant specifically to drive out a small bit very high quality farm in favor of a massive industrial one. It doesn't lower prices or increase quality (raises prices and lowers quality overall), it's just meant to drive out the competition.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 4 days ago

The whole manufacturing sector is suffering. I don't see how any blue collar worker in any state can't recognize that. People just wanted deer season open so they could forget for a couple of months.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is what I really don't get.

Like, sure, Trump's tax plan looks better for the middle class at the surface level....but that's just talking about income tax. Tariffs are taxes, too, and his tariff plan will mean significantly more dollars spent on taxes for the middle class. The net paycheck will be a little higher, but the cost increases will eat that up and much, much more.

And that's just one avenue. I'd shutter to think what will happen to the overall value of the dollar, the growing wealth disparity, the real estate market (it's nearly impossible for first time buyers as it is, but rent is exorbitant too, and a lot of it is because of sweet deals for mega landlords like Trump himself) and the costs of healthcare under Trump's "plans"

Fuck dude....my family makes 3x the local household median and we still can't save money for shit. It goes nearly as fast as it comes. We live in a modest house, we've got one (used) car payment, and fortunately no credit card debt. We buy used clothes and store-brand food. Don't go out to eat or takeout. But its still tough as hell.

[-] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

I'm legitimately unsure if anyone voting for him actually understand how Tariffs work

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

It seems the real problem with tariffs is the rapidity of them. If the US wants to encourage more manufacturing at home, fine. But as you note, just applying them suddenly is ruinous. I would think a much better approach would be that any new tariff must be slowly ramped up over a decade. Or maybe a hard rule that any individual tariff can't change by more than 2 percentage points a year. This way tariffs could still be a policy tool that can be raised and lowered based on national interest, but they would change slowly enough that industry could actually adapt.

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[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago

A couple of off-post-topic question: I'm at below-novice level in machining (learning on an old, manual Bridgeport mill at my makerspace). Can you recommend any simple but functional projects for practicing skills on a mill and learning behaviors is different materials?

Also, I'm intending to machine a replacement for my electric guitar's bridge since the stock one is both out of spec, making it impossible to find an aftermarket replacement, and it's made of chrome-coated pot-metal, making it kinda ugly and musically poor. Do you have any suggestions for alloys that are interesting, decently machinable, and non-leaded?

These "are you a bot" tests are getting real tricky.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 167 points 4 days ago

A politician who tells it like it is? A guy you could, God forbid, have a beer with? A veteran even, but with working class cred and a love of video games. A total unknown on the national level, but beloved by his constituents... You couldn't order a more perfect veep off a menu. It's almost surreal

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago

What's even better is that this is really him. Not a character, not adapting to the political race.

Minnesotans are sad to lose him as governor, but he'll be great as VP and definitely qualified to step in if something happened to Harris.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 38 points 4 days ago

Wait. He plays videogames?! I'm gonna pokemon-go to the polls next month!

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

He did a WoW stream recently that blew up in the news

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Apparently it was another streamer playing WoW with half the stream as a campaign speech, but broadcast on Kamala’s Twitch channel. Still cool, but it wasn’t him playing.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Couldn't you have just fucking killed me instead

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

I wanna have a beer with Walsh and share a joint with Sanders.

Or maybe visa versa. Idk either way sounds like a good time

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Remember when he celebrated the groundbreaking foxconn boondoggle where land was taken from a small town and given to foxconn who created less jobs than the property taxes of the people who lived there prior would have created?

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago

I fucking love waltz. I'm fairly positive on Kamala, but I absolutely love waltz. He may be my favorite politician atm.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

I'm, unfortunately, reminded me of this bit from the original Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio series (which preceded even the books):

In today’s modern Galaxy there is, of course, very little still held to be unspeakable. Many words and expressions which only a matter of decades ago were considered so distastefully explicit that were they merely to be breathed in public, the perpetrator would be shunned, barred from polite society, and, in extreme cases, shot through the lungs, are now thought to be very healthy and proper, and their use in everyday speech is seen as evidence of a well-adjusted, relaxed, and totally unf [bleep!] ked-up personality. So, for instance, when in a recent national speech, the financial minister of the Royal World Estate of Qualvista actually dared to say that due to one thing and another, and the fact that no one had made any food for awhile and the king seemed to have died, and that most of the population had been on holiday now for over three years, the economy had now arrived at what he called, “One whole juju-flop situation,” everyone was so pleased he felt able to come out and say it, that they quite failed to notice that their five-thousand-year-old civilisation had just collapsed overnight. But though even words like “juju-flop,” “swut,” and “turlingdrome” are now perfectly acceptable in common usage, there is one word that is still beyond the pale. The concept it embodies is so revolting that the publication or broadcast of the word is utterly forbidden in all parts of the galaxy except one - where they don’t know what it means. That word is “Belgium” and it is only ever used by loose-tongued people like Zaphod Beeblebrox in situations of dire provocation. Such as…

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Also...

The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

[-] starExplorer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Which reminds me of Boris Johnson's choice of vocabulary, somehow reducing the impact and perception of the ignorance, cruelty and incompetence of what is being said

[-] mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol 19 points 3 days ago

Donald Trump and JD Vance can’t cook… all they know is mcdonald’s , charge they phone, twerk, be racist, eat hot chip & lie

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago

Give ‘em a break.

Manufacturing stuff is hard, alright? You have to get off the couch and stuff

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

get off the couch

You think Vance is worried about getting anyone other than himself off?

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

"It's not gay if it's a la-Z-boy."

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

To be fair, they aren't really manufacturing most of it themselves either. A lot of it is imported from Russia.

[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Honestly, the VPs in this election are better candidates than the presidential candidates. Even if I hate JD.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

I know what you mean but JD Vance might be one of the worst VP picks ever, that's gotta bring down the average. Sarah Palin is the only comparable in my lifetime.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I genuinely don’t get how we live in the same timeline where Micheal Dukakis being so committed to his position against the death penalty (like during his debate, he said he wouldn’t advocate for it if someone raped and killed his wife) - was considered a weakness. JD has no commitment to anything and there are multiple musical remixes of him talking about how much he doesn’t like his running mate.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

We executed the Rosenberg's for far less than what has occurred in the last 20 years.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

JD is in bed with all the weirdest, and worst people on the planet: Trump, Silicon Valley, Musk, Thiel, Opus Dei, the Heritage Foundation. Vance is the Hillary Clinton of the Republican party.

[-] kittenzrulz123 53 points 4 days ago

JD Vance has never been in a factory job, or in anything other then his couch

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

I’m not even sure you can technically say he was “in” a couch.

#tinydickproblems

[-] kittenzrulz123 17 points 4 days ago

Spread the news, JD "couch fucker" Vance has a microdick

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[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 8 points 3 days ago

The replies to the tweets are mostly depressing.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago
[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

And people start to see why he consistently won positions in Minnesota!

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