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[-] Xtallll 186 points 2 years ago

Someone tell the Republicans we found the immigrant interfering with the election.

[-] Zorg@lemmings.world 17 points 2 years ago

The? Rupert Murdoch has been ~~running a huge propaganda network~~ playing 'defense' for republicans for decades.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 years ago

An AFRICAN immigrant.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago
[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 25 points 2 years ago

Yeeah, a lot of these "not really news" lately.. but it's good that they're talked about at least.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago
[-] uriel238 67 points 2 years ago

Someone please tell me that if we stop Trump, Musk shouts NO IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS WAY! and then spontaneously, melts, or shatters like glass, or gets swallowed up by a chasm, or eaten by hyenas.

And then every cybertruck, every tesla, every Spacex capsule and every Starlink satellite simultaneously turns into magic dust before evaporating into nothing.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Almost 100% onboard. The exception is SpaceX.

Obviously I don't know the exact specifics of how they're successful and I don't care.

Leave SpaceX out as the "black sheep", even though they should be the "golden child".

I wish SpaceX continued success and a future of good luck.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

SpaceX deserves a CEO who isn't a complete disaster and enemy of the state.

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago

It has Gwynne Shotwell, and she generally does quite well at managing Musk's impact.

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Indeed. She must be keeping very busy. I haven't read much about her in a while (since she publicly defended him from sex scandals).

I wonder how she really feels about his spiralling mental illnesses and tragic obsessions (social media, conspiracies, politics). He seems quite useless and irrelevant to any business decisions these days. Just another investor to keep happy.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I think Tesla could also be a company driving positive change if he wasn't cutting costs and pushing stupid products

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 years ago

It can be successful with Musk. Would love to see it separated from him

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Ready or Not rules: If trump doesn't win in november then Musk and his entire empire explodes.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

He will get eaten by hyenas, his investors, and then put in a cell.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

It's funny how this maps exactly onto the Hunter Biden files, except that everything Republicans lied about happening is now actually happening.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

Every accusation is an admission

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago

I thought that was the whole point of buying Twitter…

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

That doesn't make it legal

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Elon is getting fat. Like old fat.

[-] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago

Yes, and that is clearly the reason he purchased the platform.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

He purchased the platform because he was forced to buy it after he fucked around.

Unfortunately, we're the ones that get to "find out".

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

African immigrants are stealing the election

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 years ago

A) I don't think there's anything illegal, here, and B) of course large private agencies manipulate elections, from news agencies to SuperPACs to social media, and C) there's not a heck of a lot we can do about that.

The best thing we can do is smarten up and think for ourselves. In short, we're doomed!😅

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not illegal in the broke an actual government law sense, but it certainly violates every moral principle I've ever heard of. Instead of being generous and grateful for his wealth, the richest man has decided to buy the largest place where news is shared on the internet, fired almost all the employees primarily out of spite, and pirated the network for the sake of turning it into a propaganda platform for an attempted dictator who will make him even richer.

This is what cancel culture is made for. Not some comedian misspeaking. This.

[-] mySFWaccount@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

This was my first question. Where is the line between election "participation" and election "interference"? Putting a political sign on my lawn certainly isn't interference?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Is your lawn a network of millions of people, which censors differing opinions, and deletes others signs?

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Throw the fuckers in prison already.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How does a US citizen "interfere" in a US election? Nothing described in the article is illegal. "Interfere" is usually used to denote actions by outside powers.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • Xwitter is definitely promoting disinformation, which is election interference and can be committed by American citizens. Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman pled guilty in 2022 to hiring a firm to make calls spreading disinformation during the run-up to the 2020 election.

  • Xwitter is providing a measurable, financial benefit to the Trump campaign. That's soft money, and using soft money to exceed individual campaign contribution limits is against the law.

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Also pretty sure that creating a voter registration site that only appears to register voters in swing states (while gathering their data so you can follow up with only the ones you want to target) could also lead to criminal charges if the matter were to be pursued.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wohl and Burkman were fined for sending threatening and intimidating robocalls. Not spreading misinformation.

Fox News is also providing measurable benefit to Trump. They also spread disinformation. If euther of those things were illegal they'd been shut down back when they were calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim.

Please identify exactly which law Musk is breaking and with exactly which action.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
  • Wohl and Burkman were sentenced to community service.

  • The charge they pled guilty to was fraud; that they "falsely claimed that mail-in voting would put voters into a database that would be used to collect outstanding debt, track down warrants or enforce mandatory vaccinations." It doesn't matter what the outcome was (intimidation or something else), the fraud was the crime.

  • Fox is a slightly different case, as they're technically press and thus have a first amendment protection that automatically makes any case against them harder. But either way, the lack of prosecution is far from evidence that a crime was not committed.

  • I already identified exactly which law Musk is breaking and with what action. 52 USC 20511 and 52 USC 30101, if you find it particularly important.

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[-] oyo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Nobody gives a flying fuck about campaign finance laws with this supreme court.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Whether or not it will be prosecuted is immaterial to whether or not it is legal.

[-] Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

There are lots of potential ways, especially when you own a large social media platform that doesnt have rational reasons for blocking certain political content over others that skew a particular way.

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