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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I don't want to go grill it outside because it is cloudy today.

And boiling it makes it kinda flobby.

Has anyone grilled a hotdog in a bread toaster before? any hints?

Edit 1:

Pan fried following this advice!

I had a delicious meal!!!

Thank you @tokookah@discuss.tchncs.de!

The hotdog fits in my frying pan! Hot dog in tiny frying pan

Completed dog

Mayonnaise on English bread, Lettuce ontop, dog on lettuce, Ketchup, Mustard, delicious!

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[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 days ago

Don’t put the glizzy down the toaster slot, dawg. It deserves better, and so do you.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Like another comment said, if it's a vertical toaster, probably a bad idea. You can simply just fry it on a pan if you have one. Make cuts along the hotdog and fry it in some oil. It will turn out nice and juicy.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

You need to clean out the crumbs tray before you do this, and then wash it after. Make sure that the inner grating does not have anything stuck after too.

Toasters are only intended for dry bread. Inside they are usually just a very simple timer chip and a small 2 piece transformer. When the lever is pulled, part of that transformer is connected using a piece of steel. There is a momentary switch that powers the timer circuit which then connects the transformer holding the steel in place due to the magnetism. When the timer stops powering the transformer, it releases the steel when the magnetic field collapses.

When the circuit is connected, the power through this small transformer is traveling through a nickel-chromium ribbon wire on both sides of the slots for bread. This wire is just wound around some mica sheets that can handle high temperatures. As far as the mica and nicrome wire, this construction style is used in most consumer quality devices. You'll find this in hotplates, hair driers, curling irons, and toasters.

Note that, the transformers used in the timing circuit of toasters are not the isolated type. The nichrome wire is connected to the live mains circuit when powered.

I say all of this to make the statement: fundamentally, it is just a heating element. The fact that the element is inside a form factor is rather irrelevant. The relevant part is that the wiener likely contains fat and liquids that will come out with heat. If these were to squirt onto the mica or nichome wire it would be a problem that must be remedied with a tremendous amount of work or it could leave traces that might cause a fire later. If these juices got into the circuitry, it will likely destroy them and ruin the toaster. The placement of this circuitry is likely somewhere where an issue is unlikely, but all I can do is speculate. The engineers that designed the thing likely were not given a if-wiener-insertion constraint, and I don't think that is a UL listed thing.

Ultimately, you have to play the engineer and determine the cost to risk given the known and potential factors; it is just a simple heating element. This is only slightly more complex of a situation as a cave person's if-campfire wiener insertion conundrum. The plastic molding and appliance form factor aesthetics are irrelevant.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Quite possibly the best answer, thank you!

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

You’ll start a grease fire almost certainly, but sure, go for it. It will definitely be cooked.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Does it being a vegan hotdog change this outcome?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

no animals were harmed in the making of this grease fire

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 4 points 6 days ago

Do you have a microwave? I put lightlife's in my microwave for 90 seconds on rotate and they come out okay. Or you can boil and then pan-fry to make the skin crispier, or you could just pan-fry.

[-] Catoblepas 3 points 6 days ago

If it has fat in it (it probably does) it can drip out and start a fire. I’d microwave it or boil it before putting it in a toaster. A toaster oven with a pan is fine, if that’s what you mean? Some people call them the same thing.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Nope, vertical toaster. But thank you for explaining further!

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I tried microwaving a hot dog recently (I had a microwave for 30 years and never thought to try!) and it works surprisingly well. The skin was even browned.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Microwaved without water? since that's what I have been doing for a bit now.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yes, frozen hot dog microwaved with no water.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

do you not have like an air fryer or a electric grill/panini press you can use?

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

No, I am finally getting my second paycheck this week (I started working nearly two months ago).

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Don't forget to look at thrift shops for small kitchen appliances.

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

Air fryer dogs are 🔥

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

How did things work out for you? Still with us?

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

yep! check the post edit for my hotdog

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Good to hear! Looks like a fine dog! (Aside from the ketchup, but I'm not gonna bust your balls after what you have been through today lol)

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

A toaster oven? Sure. Use the broil setting and a broil pan or a normal pan, turning occasionally. Broil is just an upside down grill.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

A broil oven is a lot of electricity and a lot of excess heat for a single hotdog.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Maybe, but you’re too lazy to grill it outside because it’s cloudy. Maybe cold hotdog is in your future.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

It would probably work in a pinch, but do not use the darkness settings, keep a very close eye on it.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

darkness? why would that effect things?

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

It's usually the influence of the Darkness that prompts people to put hotdogs in a toaster. Don't listen to what it tells you about the bathtub either.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

I’m saying don’t use the timer, do manual control.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ah, So set it to the minimum time and use a fork / knife to rotate it?

(this is not sarcasm / joke, I am genuinely asking)

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Please do not stick a fork/knife into a bread toaster.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I've heard about getting electric shocks, but surely the coils inside are depowered after the toaster is finished toasting?

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 6 days ago

No. If it's plugged in, it's live. Do not use a metal tool. Also this is a bad idea in general.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Oki, will stop using my knife from now on.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago

Do you have chopsticks, or can you grab some? Chopsticks would be better for a toaster.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Sadly, if I did, they would be made of metal

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Please be cautious, keep us posted, and enjoy your meal however you may find it.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

When it’s off, the coils are not live or else they would heat up.

Still never stick a metal utensil in a toaster.

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 6 days ago

Respectfully, that's not the case. The heating elements always have current supplied to them, but the circuit is open until you complete it by pressing the moving segment down. When you use a metal tool and accidentally touch the side, you complete the circuit.

This is also how people can kill themselves by putting a toaster into a bathtub while they are in it.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Most toasters the switch does not engage until the bread carrier is pushed all the way down.

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 6 days ago

You don't need a switch if you are bypassing it with a knife or other conductive object, that's what I'm trying to tell you. A toaster has literally no protection - if you complete the circuit in any way (the intended way or not), the entire path becomes electrified.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

Set it for maximum but watch it cook and pop it out early when it looks/smells good.

[-] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Gotcha, Will keep this in mind then when I make my decision

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