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Last June, fans of Comedy Central – the long-running channel behind beloved programmes such as The Daily Show and South Park – received an unwelcome surprise. Paramount Global, Comedy Central’s parent company, unceremoniously purged the vast repository of video content on the channel’s website, which dated back to the late 1990s.

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[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 149 points 1 month ago

Used to be considered simply prudent to back up the vhs tapes you bought and people were encouraged to tape their favorite shows off the tv. Now some random CEO of the month has the right to bury decades worth of creative works?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 76 points 4 weeks ago

In the long run, shit like this is theft from the Public Domain.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, there really should be some expectation of stewardship in exchange for absurd post-Disney copyright durations.

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[-] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago

What a brilliant way to put it, "theft from the public domain". I'm gonna have to remember that one.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Backup vhs tapes? They put copy protections on those too, which made that difficult. In the 90s I had two VCRs, I ran the output of one to the input of the other to record duplicates. Some of the copy protection schemes would fuck with the signal or the tracking.

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[-] Gormadt 120 points 1 month ago

Recent events with streaming services has really been the best argument for self hosting your own content

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago

Every day I inch closer and closer to setting up my own plex server (or something else if there's a better alternative idk)

but the term "raspberry pi" makes me scared and confused

[-] terminal@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago

Plex is good but another option is jellyfin

[-] Gormadt 7 points 4 weeks ago

Personally I just setup a PC as a NAS‡ and installed VLC on my TV so that I can just browse the NAS and play the files directly

Is it efficient? No.

Is it the best way? Also no.

Does it work? Yes, surprisingly well in fact.

‡ The first time was simply a network shared folder, the second time was using TrueNAS.

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[-] 4am@lemm.ee 75 points 1 month ago

Can’t keep archives of Saturday morning cartoons we all grew up with and loved; will sue you for keeping copies of them.

Definitely ok to being three mile island back online for AI though, that’s the ticket to a better humanity!

For real why has everyone with any kind of money gone psycho? Have the bad guys started winning even harder?

[-] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not against nuclear power, but could they have concocted a worse set of motivations? Restarting Three Mile Island to power Microsoft's AI ambitions? Shit reads like something a super villan would cook up.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 month ago

The more they delete, the more they can resell every few years as "new" while charging ever more exorbitant prices for!

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Buy it before it goes back in the Disney vault!

[-] mangaskahn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The Disney Vault!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Write that down!

[-] sc2pirate@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Yo ho yo ho...

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 4 weeks ago

The only way to watch the original Star Wars movies before George completely fucked with them is piracy.

The 4K77, 80 and 83 editions are what you're after. Enjoy. There are apparently reduced noise versions as well, but I thought it was perfect as is. It's old. It's supposed to have noise and grain. The desert scenes in the first one are really noisy and I'm not 100% sure why. Maybe he filmed those on cheaper film stock in smaller cameras, but that's just a guess.

[-] janNatan@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 weeks ago

The director was an amateur, and he didn't align the grains of sand with the grain of the film.

[-] kjaeselrek@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 weeks ago

It’s not his fault that sand is coarse, rough, and irritating, or that it gets everywhere.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

They were course and rough and irritating and got everywhere.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago

The late 90s dvd versions are gold.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 4 weeks ago

I do have a double set with original (or as much as you could get) along with the post-prequels completely broken one. I think there was a pre-prequels version as well. But then that is DVD quality, which is getting on a bit.

The likes of Disney+ doesn't even acknowledge the originals even exist.

Same with their Alien and Aliens versions as well. No director's cuts at all, which is a shame as I far prefer them. They should have both.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 39 points 4 weeks ago

This is why I still download movies and try to keep them. They make up the bulk of the crap I keep on my hard drives.

And there was a time when the computer science world wanted to avoid this... and it was 1990 (yes, almost 35 years ago) when the term digital dark age was coined. It was in response to several things. Firstly: the first voyager probe was sent and the code used to store the information could not be disciphered by (then) the latest computers, which resulted in a problem. The second thing is that governments all around the world were starting to be heavily computerized and the older computers used in the 1960s were 100% incompatible with newer systems.

In the US and UK in 1960 the first census were done by computers, and by just 1976 there were only two computers in the world that could read that data, and one of them was a museum piece.

The FOSS community has done far more to combat this with emulation over the past 30 years than any corporation has ever done. Whether it is for video games like MAME, MESS, or whatever console emulator you want to mention, or by OSes like MS-DOS and Amiga Lemon and countless others that emulate almost every system ever created.

Now these fucks are just shitting all streaming media and forcing normal people to have to break the law by pirating the stuff just to keep the stuff from vanishing into oblivion.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 39 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 37 points 4 weeks ago

The simple answer to this is to change the tax code to not allow for write offs for completed projects. And to shorten how long copyright lasts (fuck Disney so much for that one)

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Also set up a standardized licensing process that breaks the mini-monopolies of exclusive content.

Personally, I'd also limit copyright to specific works and not the characters, setting, etc. Then protect trademarks and use those to establish canon. Like in the MCU and DC universes, Spiderman and Batman don't exist together, but in the Superhero Fan Universe, they are roommates and play genius billionaire vs superhuman with a sixth sense prank wars on each other.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 37 points 4 weeks ago

It's going to be a fun historical period to look back on when there are just huge gaps where IP/product control became so powerful that no record of certain things were allowed to exist.

[-] mPony@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

Orwell didn't know he was also writing about the Entertainment-Industrial Complex.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

Enshittification continues

[-] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

I still have dvds and a dvd player like an old person for just this reason.

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've just realized there's an animated series on Youtube, that I've had a really hard time (read: impossible) finding anywhere else, and if LEGO (yes, I'm talking about Ninjago) decides to delete these videos from their channels, the OG seasons are nowhere to ve found as far as I can tell. Yes, there are some cartoon streaming services but those are few in number and getting fewer, so I wouldn't bet on them or any new ones that spring up having that content available in 5-10 years. And that's worrying. Time to download all 15 seasons and store them somewhere! (oh shit, I don't have enough space, do I)

Edit: found them on a downloads site from the piracy megathread, but only Seasons 1-11. I'll get them all soon enough.

Edit 2: The first 11 seasons from that website come up to just over 105GB and I don't have the space. Do I buy a 256GB USB/ Drive to store this at? I'm scared that I'm getting to the point of becoming a data hoarder. Not too long ago, I didn't know what I'd do with my single 32GB USB, now I have added a 128GB one, and a 64GB Ventoy usb to the mix, and I still don't have enough. Wtf?

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

105 gigs is nothing, you can get a 1TB external drive for ~60$

I'm getting to the point of becoming a data hoarder

What's wrong with that‽ Join us on the dark side (according to giant corporations anyways), we have milk and cookies!

[-] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 weeks ago

My brother in christ you have less than a TB of storage. you're very far from being a hoarder.

I still have my first 512GB HDD from when I was in high school and I've got over 32TB on my latest build, plus my archive of old drives I leave off until I need to access them. Join us, it's better.

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[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago

Don't be scared. Embrace the data. Let it flow through the fiber optic cables and into your RAID array. Dew it!

[-] kaboom36@ani.social 11 points 1 month ago

You can have large amounts of storage without being a hoarder, tbh in this day and age its just prudent to have an offline DRM free copy of your favorite media

If you have a bit of spare cash I can't recommend building a NAS and setting up a jellyfin server enough, its really nice knowing that everything on it won't disappear unless you will it

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[-] coaxil@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Storage is relatively cheap, and don't stress becoming a data horder, added bonus, learning to manage it well is a nice skillset to develop.. Looks over at the 700tb rack!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Get a 2tb or 3tb external USB drive. They are pretty cheap.

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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 9 points 1 month ago

They will charge you again for the remake. So nice you have payed twice...

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Get the physical medium

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Preservation is an invasive and destructive process. Recreating the experience of watching 'The Daily Show' in the 90s or early '00s is already impossible. Language and culture mildew and rot just like leather and wood.

EDIT: People don't seem to understand what I'm talking about. Even the people who are responding in good faith seem confused. That's on me. So I thought I'd try to clarify with an example.

Take the Mona Lisa. Perhaps one of the most preserved objects in history. It's so well preserved that it's impossible to see. Sure, you can look at it, but you won't see it. Taking a picture of the painting is encouraged, but you can't get a look at it in your camera roll either.

If you saw the actual painting hanging on a friend's wall, your first thought would probably not be "what a masterpiece", but "why didn't they remove the default print that came with the frame"? If you go to Paris, you can wait in line to have the "Mona Lisa experience" but the painting you saw wasn't hanging on the wall, what you'll see is the Mona Lisa you brought with you.

(yes, I stole this example from 'were in hell' youtube channel)

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

This is stupid as hell.

[-] Thorned_Rose@fedia.io 33 points 1 month ago

I'm the genealogist of my family. There are things about what life was like when my grandmother was young that now only I know (since she's passed on). As I research through more and more of my family history, going back further and further, the less and less I know about what life was like when my ancestors were around, especially the minutiae of every day life. But I WANT to know what life was like. It's fascinating and, more importantly, we don't always know now what will be important in the future so how can we learn from the mistakes of the past if we don't even know they existed? My kids will never know directly what living life in the 90s as a teen was like. But I do. I remember. But I won't be here forever and if they ever want to have even a tiny inkling of what it was like, I need to ensure that the stories, the accounts, the events, the nuance, the opinions..... are recorded and passed on, as my grandmother did with me.

The saying, "History is written by the victor" is absolutely true. But if we had the little tiny details from the perspectives of lots of different people, the victor cannot rewrite history for their benefit and in their image. History, no matter how big or small, matters.

If you don't care. Cool for you bro. Ignore it. But for the rest of us who want to learn, recording and archiving matters. I feel nothing but honour in my obligation to ensure events and history is passed on for future generations.

[-] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

History is written by those that write stuff down.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

obviously a news show isn't going to feel the same rewatching it. that's not the point lol.

that would be like saying it's dumb to preserve newspapers in libraries because it's not going to feel as good rereading the "Hitler is dead" headline. people don't look at old news to have a good time.

boy was it silly of us to preserve that kind of thing and it totally never comes in handy/s

that's not even what people are upset about anyway. comedy Central mostly makes entertainment programming that isn't news based and can still be enjoyed whenever. believe it or not, comedy Central has a lot of content that will stand the test of time. especially when looking at their stand-up catalogue.

this is the destruction of a library. a digital one, but a library none the less. that's what people are mad about.

but you're right. we should just dump all of our old movies and shows. they're worthless moldy junk anyway... 🙄

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Just a simple lowly troll, nothing of importance to see here

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[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks, Obama.

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