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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.

Elon Musk’s support among Democrats has withered to a new low as he has embraced Republican politics, according to a national NBC News poll

Only 6% of Democrats in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-17, said they had positive feelings about Musk, while 79% said they had negative feelings. The numbers were flipped for Republicans, with 62% having positive feelings toward him and 14% negative feelings. Independents were split, 31% to 36%. 

The poll shows that views of Musk are increasingly polarized, reflecting the transformation of his public image in recent years from that of an environmentally aware automaker crusading against fossil fuels to that of a conservative activist aligned with former President Donald Trump.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 285 points 6 months ago

The fuck is wrong with that 6%?

[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

They bought a Tesla and now feel like they have to defend their decision

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Why was there even a poll for this?

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago

The poll is 26 pages long

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25171447-240405-nbc-september-2024-poll_922-release

It's just a few triangulated facts derived from the overall results. This is how almost all polling works.

[-] Catoblepas 7 points 6 months ago

Lizardman constant strikes again.

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[-] garretble@lemmy.world 120 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

“I, a genius, will alienate the group who want EVs to curry favor with the group who will never buy EVs. Genius, I say.”

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

He's just seeing what Trump and the GOP are planning for the US and hopes he'll be one of the oligarchs at the top in the end.

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago

Maybe he's playing 5D chess and is secretly making Conservatives want EVs.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago
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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 75 points 6 months ago

Thats fine, I'm sure Republicans will start buying EVs any day now

[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

The next tesla model will have a coal oven inside it. Will still run on electricity, the oven is just in there so you can do some pollution too. The main factor in making the electric part palpable to republicans will be telling them how brown people are being exploited to get the materials for the batteries out of the ground.

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[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 months ago

Still too high.

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Who. Fucking. Cares.

(Not directed at OP, just the idea of the survey in general. Who needed to know this information? Why do they think the public needs to know how popular a random rich guy it's.)

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago

he's not a random rich guy and claiming that is either disingenuous or irresponsible. though i get the frustration, just because he's a demonic troglodyte you wish you never heard about anymore doesn't mean you get to ignore his existence. then they get to do whatever they want.

pushback, scrutiny and ridicule are the only tools we have against massively influential cunts. and because they're massively influential, their popularity matters.

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[-] gt24@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Someone may want to know if you are a Democrat or Republican (for advertising, for gerrymandering, whatever). That person may not be able to ask you a direct question like that though (or may feel that you may lie about the answer to such a question anyway).

As such, they likely carry out occasional surveys asking people who are Democrat or Republicans for their opinions on something else. Once they find something else that can strongly correlate your political affiliation with a specific opinion, they know of a new question they can ask someone. That new question should generally reveal what your political party is most likely and they can then proceed with that "most likely" answer.

So "who cares" is those who cannot directly ask you something. They will ask you something else and use that answer to deduce the information they cannot obtain directly.

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[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Considering how politically active he is, he might become a politician (even running for president?). A lot of people will care about this if suddenly Elon musk appears in American ballots.

EDIT: I just remembered that Elon cannot run for USA president. But idk if other political positions are open.

And seeing how trump can break every law, I don't see what would prevent Elon from running for president.

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[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Money is power. Rich people are more powerful than politics. We should care much more about them than we do now. Musk is dangerous. He's also visible and that's a good thing. The quiet invisible ones are even more dangerous.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Fuck Elon

Fuck Tesla

Fuck Xitter

Fuck Spa Sex

Fuck Starlink

Did I miss anyone? Oh yes, and Fuck Elon.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 38 points 6 months ago

Neuralink.

Fuck that shit, too.

(Especially when you learn about thiel and the other tech Bros plans to harvest humans for biofuel by keeping them alive and hooked up in a virtual world. As a more "humane alternative to genocide")

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 24 points 6 months ago

Why do these people keep looking at the Matrix as a manual instead of a warning?

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago

One of my super tinfoil theories is that all mainstream science/speculative fiction is a psyop not meant to warn, but to desensitise us to the dystopia.

Obviously, that would just seem crazy...

On an unrelated note:

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/12/21/41772/

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[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Behind the Bastards recently did a two-parter on Yarvin with Ed Helms as a guest. It’s depressing but good, as per usual.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago

Fuck Spa Sex

What did spa sex ever do to you tho?

[-] oce@jlai.lu 9 points 6 months ago

It ruined Myspacex

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Got a UTI ☹️. 🔥🥒

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[-] don@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

The Boring Company, fuck them, too.

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[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

6% is waaay too high

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 6 months ago

Really good way to sell electric cars. Good job Elon.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Something to avoid- standing near a parked Tesla with sentry mode enabled drains its battery significantly as it tracks you. Locating a camera and displaying a paper sign, one light enough to blow in the wind that reads “musk sucks”, would accomplish the same thing, and should also be avoided.

[-] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While funny... I think you underestimate how big the battery in a Tesla is and also how little power the computer would pull.

THAT said... I wonder if there is a drive somewhere that could be filled doing that?

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

From what I understand, it wastes an extra ~2%/hr. A tragic sum, if done repeatedly throughout the week. I think it overwrights old data as the drive fills. I can’t see utility in that, aside from mischievously scrubbing old footage.

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[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Why in God's good name would I care about Elon Muskrat's popularity among Democrats?

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

YOU might not. But I'm sure the politicians and bureaucrats who determine whether Musk's businesses continue getting billions in taxpayer funded subsidies would sure like to know if the public is behind continuing to do that. I for one would consider it a bonus if say, the Democrats won control in November, looked at the numbers and decided none of their supporters are behind Musk, determined he's been playing fast and loose using taxpayer dollars to fund pushing his own political agenda, and turned off the free ride.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 13 points 6 months ago

Who the hell are those 6%?

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why is musk’s(and Swift’s) popularity newsworthy? Unless they are trying to run for office, who cares?

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 33 points 6 months ago

Musk has continued to interfere with politics over and over again. From donations, to censorship, to being a weird fucking creep to female politicians.

Swift was dragged in there because Donald Trump shared fake AI images of her supporting Donald. To fix the blowback, Swift said, "Ew you old filthy pedo, I'm not doing that". (Don't quote me)

Its newsworthy because it's news.

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[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Because they have lots of money and influence among the 18-35 demographic. Would I prefer if news corps didn't cover their every move and thought? Yeah I would, but unfortunately news featuring Musk and Swift gets clicks which drives advertising.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

62% positive isn't really the flipside of 79% negative.
If you combine the 6 and 62% positive and estimate they are about equal size demographics, it's only about 34% positive combined, with 47% negative.
I bet that when Tesla collapses, the 62% positive republicans will decline too. Republicans are only positive towards him because they think he is some sort of money guru.

Tesla is losing marketshare hard in Europe, and probably in China too, if it isn't happening already in USA it is probably imminent, as Tesla developments of new cars can't keep up with the pace of the competition, and Tesla models are looking more and more outdated. Tesla is already looking like a failing company, despite they have by far the biggest marketshare in pure EV.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Tesla also lost a ton of the initial talent that made the model S and X such incredible feats of technology. IMO, if I buy and electric car here in the states it’s a Lucid, and if I get an SUV it’s a Rivian.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Is that the 6% that are buying Tesla's? Seriously though it's not like the right are buying his electric cars

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

We cannot explain why it's this high

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Seems like that's his goal?

[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago

Poll of whom, you ask?

Interviews: 1,000 Registered Voters, including 870 respondents interviewed via cellphone. Date: September 13-17, 2024

They obviously don't poll those of us who don't answer calls from numbers we don't recognize.

And don't return sketchy voicemails. We Olde learned this in the days of "Caller ID" as an extra paid service.

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[-] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 7 points 6 months ago

Christ, he's ACTUALLY managed to hit the Lizardman Constant with the dems.

Now hit it with the Repubs too. Come on Trump. You wanna turn on your ally. You wanna turn on your ally and throw him to your cult soooooo badly. It'll be really funny I promise

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