Facebook comments: Well obviously it was taken in the SUMMER 😂🤣😆 Morons global warming is all fear mongering!
Yes Jim. It's very normal that entire glaciers disappear, regularly in fact, every year. You are so smart, much smarter than all of the scientists who are panicking.
Ummm…. There’s people right here on lemmy saying the same dumb shit about summer. Don’t think for a second that lemmy doesn’t host some of the exact same idiots Facebook does.
Good news is that many instances on Lemmy are less tolerant to alt-right trolls and climate deniers. Best to use that report function so your admins, or even better, their admins, can snipe them.
Good idea. Though I generally don’t like to over-use the report function.
Reddit comment: Shaving does make your dinghy look bigger!
Also, the sunlight suggests it's summer in the first photo (or at least not winter).
crazy to think that guy has been on that boat for over 100 years
He clearly switched boats.
Boat of Theseus
Nah, he just slowly upgraded and remodel on the spot. The guy never moved from that spot. 🤥
Wow, it looks so much prettier today. All thanks to climate improvement.
Thanks, emissionschads!
Thank goodness they cleared out all that snow and ice so that we can finally see the pretty mountains.
We should put some factories there!
This might be silly but we could replace the ice with trash?
We might have to workshop this, but I feel like there's a good idea in there somewhere
While were at it we should also put a 50 lane highway
Afterwards, 30 chained fast food resturants along with gas stations can be built along it followed by market advertisement campaigns to set up billboards
Hear me out.
Miles of parking lots!
At least we got some space to build car centric suburbia, eh? /s
More room to pollute! 🥳🥳🥳
Maybe there's oil under there!
Then it would need liberation and a hefty dose of freedumb!
It depends what. Plastic recycling is mostly a scam/fraud and does not fix nor change much.
The industry has long known that plastics recycling is not economically or practically viable, the report shows. An internal 1986 report from the trade association the Vinyl Institute noted that “recycling cannot be considered a permanent solid waste solution [to plastics], as it merely prolongs the time until an item is disposed of”.
In 1989, the founding director of the Vinyl Institute told attendees of a trade conference: “Recycling cannot go on indefinitely, and does not solve the solid waste problem.”
Despite this knowledge, the Society of the Plastics Industry established the Plastics Recycling Foundation in 1984, bringing together petrochemical companies and bottlers, and launched a campaign focused on the sector’s commitment to recycling.
In 1988, the trade group rolled out the “chasing arrows” – the widely recognized symbol for recyclable plastic – and began using it on packaging. Experts have long said the symbol is highly misleading, and recently federal regulators have echoed their concerns.
Cited article, and the report's source
Recycling paper, metal and glass will help and make a difference, keeping in mind that we need to use less in the first place. However plastic recycling is broken by default, pretty much everywhere.
A reverse image search revealed to me that there are a hell of a lot of copies of this image around the internet, but I can't seem to find any papers that provide background. I'm going to have to look again later, but if there's any other internet sleuths out there interested in figuring out the origins of these photos with reputable explainers, I would love to know more about this.
I'm always afraid of things like this that seem to confirm my biases without associated information to back it...
I just did reverse image search and found this article from 2002
The Guardian article nailed it, thanks!
It doesn't cite exactly where they got the Greenpeace photo from, but I found it here: https://media.greenpeace.org/archive/Climate-Impact-Documentation-in-Norway--Svalbard-27MZIF4WNED.html
Climate Impact Documentation in Norway, Svalbard Greenpeace documentation showing that glacier "Blomstrandbreen" has retreated nearly 2 km since 1928, with an accelerated rate of 35 metres lost per year since 1960 and even higher in the past decade. In the image, view of climate campaigner Truls Gulowsen on a speed boat going to a mine in Longyearbyen.
Unique identifier: GP0STSCL6 Shoot date: 03/08/2002 Locations: Norway, Scandinavia, Svalbard Credit line: © Greenpeace / Christian Åslund
A bit more from the Guardian article:
Greenpeace activists visited the glacier last weekend on the Rainbow Warrior taking pictures from the same locations to highlight the effects of global warming, which the group says is a threat to the future of the planet.
The Blomstrandbreen glacier has retreated by one and a quarter miles since 1928, according to Greenpeace. It was shrinking by 115ft a year in the 1960s, a rate which has risen.
Recent studies carried out by US researchers and reported in Science last month said that 85% of the glaciers they examined had lost vast portions of their mass in the last 40 years.
Keith Echelmayer of the University of Alaska at Fairbanks, who has carried out research into Alaska's ice streams and checked glacier thickness, said: "Most glaciers have thinned several hundred feet at low elevation in the last 40 years and about 60 feet at higher elevations."
There's a couple similar photos from 2022 posted to Reddit by the same photographer (meaning the same person posted these two, not that it's necessarily the same person who posted the one above):
yeah but it's much more colorful now. that's good, isn't it?
OP always thinks positive.
But at what point does it become toxic positivity?
That…. Is fucking tragic. There’s no going back to that. Ever.
Don't worry, the ice will come back, we just won't be around to see it.
Speak for yourself, I intend to be here for it.
Oh it will be back. We won't be. But the planet always bounces back.
Not really tbh. The earth is well past the halfway point until we look like Mars: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
Good luck, everyone. I genuinely hope you make it through as okay as you can.
I myself asked "What time of year was the lower photograph taken?" Then I realized I was being dumb, because if either photo was taken in winter time, we would see at least some ice in the water, if not a very large ice sheet.
That, and it'd be dark. You'd need to pack one hell of a flash.
Well that's fuckin depressing
Mother Nature: Dont worry humans, everything will be fine, life will go on. Your fucking this up for your self, and you wont be missed
I'm always disappointed when someone takes the time to try to reproduce an old photo but they miss by not having everything identical (wooden boat).
Then I'm more disappointed because that motorized boat is part of the problem that caused this tragedy.
IDK, maybe that was the point
I mean anyone is free to try their hand at reproducing it better, I'm sure the spot hasn't changed that much since the modern one here was taken, and if it has, well it'll just make the comparison that much more dramatic.
Revenge of the Titanic.
New real estate!
Notice the first guy is in a wooden boat and the second guy is in a boat most likely made out of some plastic-based fibers. 🤔
The plastic isn't really a huge driver of climate change, the problems it causes are different.
For the climate change comparison, notice that the old boat has oars, but the new boat has a gas engine
Oprah buying up development rights on the coastline there too?
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