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Microwaves tend to come in 2 types, ones with a rotating plate and ones without. Assuming everything else is equal about a microwave does rotating the food assist with the reheating?

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[-] IGuessThisIsForNSFW@yiffit.net 38 points 1 month ago

The Cheese Test (youtube link) is a great way to visualize this. If the food doesn't rotate, you end up with hot and cold spots.

(This was just the first video I could find of someone performing the test for people who hadn't heard of it, I didn't listen to the video, only confirm that that's what they're doing)

[-] tiefling 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The theory is that a rotating plate heats food evenly

In practice what ends up happening is my ceramic bowl heats to 500 degrees while the contents somehow get colder??? Except for like, one carrot that is now glowing red

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Y'all need to try lowering the power setting on your microwave and heating your food a little longer.

Also, if you're heating something like lasagna where it's almost impossible to properly heat up, cut it up into smaller slices so there's less insulation. Still isn't perfect, but at least it won't be literally cold after 3 minutes.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Do you put the dish in the center or on the edge?

Ever since I switched to on the edge it's noticeably improved, the bowl still gets hot but at least the food also gets kinda hot

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Potatoes on edge, rice chicken and leaves in the middle

Pork can be either, it just overheats and cools quickly, if it's great enough it's not going to dry. Otherwise do like chicken.

Lasagna: slice it and make a ring

If it's a dish that's all homogeneous like fried rice, make a donut

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 20 points 1 month ago

Only on microwaves that are designed to rotate food. there are designs that work without rotating but most people like to see their food go around so that is what most get.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If it doesn't go round, how can I tell it's working? Turns out, if the fan doesn't work, I don't beleive it's working either. Listen there's a set of rules for microwaves, ok?

[-] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 34 points 1 month ago

Yes, it does. Without the plate you will get hot and cold spots where the waves interact. If you don't have a rotating plate you should be manually rotating the food, unless there's some new tech I'm not aware of.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 month ago

Tray-less microwaves have a spinning metal "stirring fan" below a plastic floor you set your food upon to mix the bounce path the microwaves take. Since they expose fewer moving parts to the end user they are easier to clean and more resilient making them a good option for commercial / high volume settings.

[-] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Interesting, thanks!

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

I haven't seen one for sale in a few decads though. Where can I get one?

[-] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The keyword is "flatbed". They are well available. Mine is a noisy Whirlpool MWF 421 BL with a glass floor and door, coarse pulse width modulation fractional power (overheat and cool down alternating), and a grill that doesn't work at the same time with the microwave (heat first, then brown). I'm looking for a quieter one with inverter for real fractional power.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

Try a specialist catering supplier. They're not cheap though.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A microwave works by bouncing microwaves around the interior. Since the shape of the container doesn't change neither will the path that the bounced waves take. This can lead to hotspots in what you're reheating.

To mitigate this you have a few options:

  • move the food around in the container so that different parts pass through different hotspots over time (this is what a tray does)
  • interrupt the microwave path via a "stirrer fan" that sits below the microwave floor (this is what tray-less units use)

Both approaches redistribute the hotspots to maximize even heating. The efficacy of either approach will come down to the specific design of either unit, but a tray-less unit can be easier to clean, and with fewer moving parts exposed to end users can be a good option for commercial/high user count settings.

Each design accomplishes the same task of relatively even heating with few hotspots.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

As others have said, microwave ovens create standing waves with regions of higher power (hot spots), which unevenly heat food. If you want to see this for yourself, Scientific American has a kids project for measuring the hot spots in a microwave using chocolate or marshmallows. There’s also a bunch of videos on YouTube of people essentially doing this same project.

It makes the heating more even. The microwaves aren't uniform inside so rotating helps even things out.

[-] cmoney@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I had a microwave that moved the plate side to side which worked really well for heating anything solid, but heating liquids usually resulted in a mess.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/OyTmJX_TC84

Here's a (trained electrical masters) putting metal in a microwave. I don't remember if its this or another of his microwave videos in which he warms up the cardboard box and looks at it with a thermal camera.

Or maybe it was a veritasium microwave plasma video where they show it i can't recall

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Do they still make non rotating microwaves?

[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, commercial and maybe some premium microwaves can achieve the effect of the turntable by more hidden means.

Though, I don’t know if they still make cheap microwaves without any hotspot mitigation whatsoever.

[-] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The keyword is "flatbed". Plenty around.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I had a square one so without a rotating plate, IIRC it was the microwave emitter that rotated instead. If that is plausible, I sort of doubt it a little now.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

At least one brand now has a newer design that rotates the microwaves themselves to better distribute the energy. It's a bit pricier than the standard models.

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago

I only use the most expensive of microwaves that rotate the actual causal reality of the earth-itself around the microwave.

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