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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 83 points 1 month ago

Sad part is, the work could have been subbed out to the cheapest while homeowners paid much higher.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By could have been I think you mean almost certainly

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

I got a quote from a local big roofing place for my garage 12 years ago and they made me watch a video of the owner crying about his dead dad then threw out a $4500 quote. I just didn’t do the roof. Fast forward to 2023 and I get an actual roofer to do the roof and replace wood because I waited too long. The price of building materials was sky high, it was $2500. Probably the same guys they subcontract.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

they made me watch a video of the owner crying about his dead dad

Glad you didn't reward that behavior. WTF were they thinking?

[-] geogle@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago

And the vent still leaks

[-] jmiller@lemm.ee 74 points 1 month ago

And the person who found it isn't doing a good job either, putting new shingles over old. The old should be removed.

[-] Atropos@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

Eh, going over one layer is fine as long as there are no decking or other structural problems. From what I can see here the older ones are in good enough shape.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, inches worth of snow in extra weight is tooootally fine... yep, no downsides to increasing deadwwight at all, nope, nosiree, engineers all agree, dead weight needn't factor in to calculations at all.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

I was a roofer for a few years. In Florida, a state with some of (if not the) the most strict roof codes in the country. It's perfectly ok to layer shingles like that and was common practice for a good while. I've torn off houses with 4+ layers of shingles several times and had the decking be just fine underneath them. You have no idea what you're talking about

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 16 points 1 month ago

I can imagine he's used to having snow, and when you've got 2feet of snow on your roof extra shingles definitely wouldn't help.

[-] Githyanki@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

If they get 2 feet of snow in Florida we have bigger problems than this guy's roof.

[-] Atropos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

As an engineer, we only ever agree on two things:

  1. That's not enough money
  2. That's not enough time
[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The weight-per-unit-area of a shingle is dwarfed by the amount of snow it takes to affect a roof.

These shingles weight 1.8lbs per square foot when installed (3 packs for 99.9sqft at 62lbs per pack). Call it 2lbs/sqft with nails. Ice (the densest form of "snow" weighs 57lbs per cubic foot. 57 divided by 2 gives us a factor of 28.5 to divide into 1ft (the height of 1 cubic foot) to find that a 1/2" layer of ice weighs more than shingles per square foot. I'm not going to worry about the weight of shingles.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago

I mean snow's only a factor in some places

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

And even where it's a factor, local code will (slowly) reflect actual capability.

Ive lived in several states, a few which get snow, even the heavy wet kind. Even there code permits up to 3 layers, depending on how the roof is constructed.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What are those shingles? Pieces of tar?

[-] jmiller@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

A fiberglass mat core with asphalt around it and grit stuck in the asphalt on the top.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] jmiller@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Tiles are great, I'd love to have a roof last 100 years. But they don't get as much use here because of issues with ice damning up the bottom edge and pooling water up under the tile, which then freezes and expands and dislodges or damags the tile. That can be overcome, but it's easier and cheaper to use shingles.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Well, thanks for the explanation!

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 month ago

But they don’t get as much use here

You should clarify "here" a bit more. In AZ tile roofs are EVERYWHERE.

We end up replacing the underlayment more often than the actual tiles... unless the specific type of tile is no longer made and too many cracked for whatever reason.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

it's a tennis match that Sean Connery plays without a partner.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

my 2 bathrooms extractor fans are like that, home inspector never caught it

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

That’s what I’m thinking. The homeowner installed it to fake meeting code.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

That was my first thought when I saw it. "That's something my dad would do to get past an inspection".

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I used to live in a brick rowhouse, and the arched transom started to crack. I thought I'd diy repoint it myself, only to find out that a previous contractor had "fixed" it by jamming cardboard in the cracks and filled it in with caulk. Totally legit.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I will be DIYing everything for the rest of my life because that's apparently the only way to hire someone who gives a fuck.

[-] jg1i@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Cy: People buying million dollar homes think they're getting the A-Team. They're not. It's the same builders that build the cheap homes.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

It's the same builders that build the cheap homes

What cheap homes? No one is building those these days, other than maybe Habitat for Humanity and companies making mobile/prefab homes.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"million dollar home" can mean vastly different houses depending on location, but yeah no guarantee of quality

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

What am I looking at here? Something on a roof?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Supposed to be a vent, but there is no hole in the roof. Contractor did not cut hole in the roof, just installed the "vent" so that it looks ok.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Damn, that's a good building expression of the shit I see at work coding software. 😅

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 month ago

Ventilation hole in the roof.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Blackout@fedia.io 37 points 1 month ago

Cy is the nickname of Cygnus X-1, a galactic X-ray source in the constellation Cygnus and roofing YouTube influencer.

[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

"roofing YouTube influencer" was not on my bingo card...

[-] dovah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Wow that's quite a resume!

[-] rmtworks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

There is a guy who goes by “Cy” who posts videos online of homes he inspects in Arizona. There’s been some crazy stuff he’s found. I enjoy watching his content.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Guy on YouTube/TikTok who does home inspections and see the laziest shit by builders. He seems like a good dude who stands up for the homeowners to get their new homes fixed up when builders try to avoid responsibility. He's been on the news a bit, too

https://youtube.com/@cyfyhomeinspections

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Should specify that he's been in the news cause builders are using easily provable lies and slander to try and stop him from calling out their bullshit.

Remember folks, they don't build things like they used to! They build them twice as expensive and pocket every penny they can!

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

you can't park that there

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