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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

The taxpayer dollars that are “coming out of the public system and going into the pockets of private agencies is very concerning,” Dr. Almost said. “Think about what could be done with $1.5-billion. It could be used to provide better care. It could be used to actually retain nurses.”

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, retaining nursing is a big deal. In Ontario, I think we have 150,000 nurses. The government's approach to nurses leaving the workforce post COVID because of poor working conditions has been to graduate more nurses. But a new-grad nurse is not as competent as a nurse with 10 years of experience, and so the 'graduate more nurses' approach does not offset the competency drain from any excessive churn of experienced nurses

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 month ago

Money changers and rent seekers generally will take 25-75% of the fee depending on contract is structured.

Parasites getting these contracts would likely have to have connection to the ruling regime to obtain contracts along with favourable terms.

Corruption 101

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

On the plus side, the province has demonstrated that the work nurses do is worth that much to it. Should be fun pointing that out in contracr negotiations.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 month ago

the labour is not priced on value it brings, labour is priced on what slave driver gets away with.

but yes contract is priced based on what value the money changer can extract from the sate via corrupt process.

[-] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Mike Harris' wife says "Thank You".

If you want to look up why sociopaths are so desperate to get into political offices, just look at the example of griftmeister Mike Harris.

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I am a disability support worker, and would like to add a little context that may affect how this expense is perceived. One of the types of in home support for the very disabled, injured or the very old, is nursing.

Some types of in home care require a nurse - administering certain medication, handling a ventilator, wound care, etc.

If there are not nurses in the community offering these services the alternative is that these people go to the hospital for the round the clock care they need - a much more expensive proposition.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Is this where the majority of hours are worked? Because the way I understand the scheme, it's the facilities that have no other choice but to hire agency staff where the growth is. Like hospitals.

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, do facilities hire private nurses? Like traveling nurses? I had only heard the term "private nurse" as in one who is privately hired to work in the home.

Edit: Ah, they do indeed, I have now read the article, apologies. I read private nurses and assumed it meant in home nurses. It seems in Canada the term applies to travel nurses or agency nurses.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

"Private" here is being used to mean "private sector", not "personal".

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes I get that now, in Australia the term "private nurse" is used exclusively as far as I know to refer to private in home nurses.

If I google "private nurses Australia" it is clear this is the case, and a company I have worked through is one of the top results.

If I google "private nurses Canada" the results all refer to agency nurses like the above article.

My mistake, I made an assumption without actually reading the article before commenting.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

It said the average amount facilities paid agencies per hour rose 34 per cent to just more than $133 per hour in 2023-2024, up from about $100 in 2020-2021.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I would be curious how costly is the overhead + social charges, but I am pretty sure that nurses would make more than at their private agency.

Like even if we split that in half to be really conservative, that would be a bit more than 65$/h.

Also, I am pretty sure that no nurse got. 33% raise. So some fat fingers got into the cookie jar.

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