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[-] systemguy_64@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Ayy bb u up?

Have you heard of Gentoo?

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Now that I think about it, that original meme was not true either. My friends always argued about windows vs. Mac, and continued to Android vs. iPhone

Like, people talk about OSes in general conversation

[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

My workplace has this common braindead policy where we have to change our passwords every 3 months. So every time I change it, Microsoft page asks me, “HOW WAS IT?”

Like it wasn't annoying enough.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I never understood the purpose of this.

Unless you are REAL stupid levels of lucky to have one of the mandatory password changes the day after a compromise that you werent aware of, all mandatory regular password changes do is make people use less secure passwords.

[-] mcx808@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Once upon a time it was a recommended best practice both by NIST and Microsoft if I recall. Both deprecated that practice years ago but most a lot of institutional inertia keeps it going, plus industry standards based on that time that don’t update as often perpetuate the problem.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Technically it reduces the window for a successful brute force.

That said, it comes with serious drawbacks. Mainly making them impossible to memorize, so then users end up just writing them on post-its and putting them on their monitor. Or other equally dumb things.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

There's no purpose. It's 100% security theatre.

[-] cashew@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

"Security theatre" is what I've named the contact in my work phone for the call center I have to call every time I accidentally use the "one time password" more than once (because god forbid they implement proper SSO, meaning I have to do a shotgun login run every morning). When I call them all I tell them is my name and that my account is locked.They click a button and we're back. Complete waste of time on everyone's part.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Nothing like TSA level security.

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

So does mine, and we just got hacked. Almost like users make stupid passwords when required to change frequently.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago

Best use of that image I've ever seen

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 day ago

Windows user:

*Complaining about ads on their desktop

Me, a linux enjoyer:

*inhales*

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.

Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren't for normal people.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Adding repos is a one time thing that takes like 10 minutes tbf. And even then there are gui tools for that funny enough.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Ten minutes? What are you doing for the other eight? Basking in the warmth of a job well done?

[-] prole 8 points 15 hours ago

I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I've never once had to manually add a repository.

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Not knocking you but there is also a reason the "I use Arch memes" exist.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Because we want everyone to know how SUPERIOR arch (and derivates distro) is so they can get in the fun? 😁 /j

[-] prole 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Cool. Don't care.... Just pointing out that the person is wrong.

I've been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I'll tell you why I use it: to use open source software. I noticed whatever freemium program I used on Windows that was cool eventually got enshittified and became spyware. Like fucking clockwork, the author of uTorrent sold out and all the new versions became cancer

Linux has better support for a lot of open source software, you can use a package manager to download most of it, and flatpak for a bunch that's not there

It's just so much easier than trying to find the official site for the program you want.

[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I drive Linux for a similar reason to why some people prefer driving manual transmission cars to automatics.

Automatic transmission cars are ideal for a certain kind of driver that has no interest in how the machine actually works, they just want the machine to do its job as smoothly as possible without them having to think about it. Not bothering with the details is the whole point.

For those of us who do have an interest in knowing how the vehicle works, automatics become kind of suffocating. They're designed to only ever behave in certain specific ways. If there's a weird niche thing that we know is possible for the machine to do with manual control, but the automatic system doesn't support, you're just SOL. You can't. This starts coming up in all sorts of annoying little ways, increasing in frequency as your knowledge increases. Death of a thousand cuts. You start feeling like you're not really driving this car, you're being taken for a ride.

Windows is like the automatic. It is a black box designed to allow people who don't care how the computer works to use the computer. To prevent morons from breaking the internal components, they put up barriers around everything and tell you to keep out.

Linux is like the manual. Yes, it does demand more finesse and active knowledge about how the computer works to drive properly. But you're in maximum control of it. If you want to pop the hood and tinker with every facet of its innards for whatever reason, it does not attempt to stop you. It's all open, laid bare for you to do whatever you want with it.

Linux has a lot of options available to make it more automatic like Windows, if you want it. The difference is that the automatic-ness is completely optional in Linux. Imagine a car that can be automatic most of the time when you don't care, but can become manual at the drop of a hat when you need it. Linux can be that if you want it to be. Windows can't.

[-] sntx@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

So, you're saying that people driving automatic cars crash more often than manual transmission drivers?

(Ignore the people that shift into reverse at 180km/h)

[-] prole 10 points 15 hours ago

Everything is free and 100% customizable if you want to put a little bit of effort in (I'm sure this varies wildly depending on technical abilities).

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

....and theres no Microsoft whoch is the best part

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

We can't tell you. It's a secret.

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 15 hours ago

There's nothing special about it. Linux distros are one of the options, alongside windows and osx as desktop systems.

What there are are preferences, morals, affordability. Linux is generally free, has different approaches to how the system is structured, how software is installed, how much access to the system you have, and how much responsibility for setting it up you have.

This will also vary from distro to distro, but generally software is installed from the distribution's repositories, not downloading files from various websites - and instead of having some different scheme for updating every program on your computer, you use a single command (or button in an app) to update your system and all your software. This is one of the main things I love about Linux - you get to update your stuff when you want, all at once.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 12 points 18 hours ago

Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro's and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We're very much a bubble here.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 21 hours ago

There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.

Political Reasons

The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can't be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.

The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.

Practical Reasons

The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.

The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows' system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.

With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.

Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it's very much not a user's only choice.

Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren't found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn't managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.

Microsoft has been eroding the end user's ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn't routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.

Aesthetic Reasons

Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It's not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn't let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I'm using Fedora KDE right now. By default there's a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click "Show Alternatives" and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that's more typical of Linux systems. It's just so much more flexible.

[-] ugh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago
  1. Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.

  2. Windows hogs resources. If you don't shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.

  3. Windows is full of ads.

  4. The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it's a bonus.

  5. Linux is free.

  6. Linux doesn't force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.

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[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago

I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I'm that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I'm a vegan.

Why don't you use emacs? You can replace Linux with it and use it to start vim!

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Your personal choices are offending me.

[-] businessfish 4 points 11 hours ago
[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Have you considered CrossFit?

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

The Holy Trifecta!

[-] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Maybe they cook only with an air fryer.

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[-] renzev@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago
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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 94 points 1 day ago

Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn't matter what you run, just don't run Windows 11.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

windows 11 isn' all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago

well duh. windows is the default everyone uses, no one needs to recommend it.

linux on the other hand is an obscure choice that may be better for that use case and may not be known.

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