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The sound of many of them exploding


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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 203 points 4 months ago

So, what Israel is admitting here, is that they could individually pinpoint and target Hamas but instead carpet bombed Palestine into genocide.

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 142 points 4 months ago

supply chain attacks are dirty tactics too, they have no idea who is holding 3000 pagers when detonation.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago

They literally knew about the attack before it happened. Genocide was always the primary goal.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago

Israel is obviously behind the attacks but has not taken responsibility for them yet. So no, they're not admitting anything.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

This is the key thing here. People can whine about this attack, but this was targeted and it worked with low collateral damage, which also makes it legal (as in not a war crime).

The problem is everything else that Israel is doing since Oct 7, causing 1/3 of the Palestinian casualties to be children.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

The very nature of a supply chain sabotage like this is indiscriminate.

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 4 months ago

It's low collateral damage the same way a suicide bomber is. So, I guess, your IDF-brained take is suicide bombers are low casualty and precise.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 months ago

It's a low collateral attack when you see civilians as enemies and want literally all of them dead.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Human Rights Watch :

Customary international humanitarian lawprohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction.

[-] dlatch@lemmy.world 161 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If this was the other way around, we'd have global outrage, days of mourning and piles of new weapons for Israel right now. We'd be speaking about one of the worst terrorist attacks in history.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago
[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

This was a stupid decision by Israel. They have given the green light to mass attacks through consumer products. Can they really afford to protect all their imported products (electronics, food, water, etc) from every type of attack?

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[-] Navarian@lemm.ee 134 points 4 months ago

Five years ago, if you had asked me if Israel would be committing terrorist attacks across Palestine, Lebanon and beyond, I would have said absolutely not.

I would have been wrong, even back then, but jesus fucking christ, what an absolute shambles.

How my government supports this state-sponsored terrorism is beyond me.

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 31 points 4 months ago

Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn't targeting non-combatants.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 101 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?

Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?

Now they just repeated it, I'm sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.

[-] Navarian@lemm.ee 82 points 4 months ago

Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants

How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?

If you want to be pedantic, and you're talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?

Don't be a genocide apologist.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

Doesn't really matter if they weren't targeted if they still ended up dead.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 months ago

So, like, are Israeli reservists fair game for terror attacks?

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 17 points 4 months ago

If they're on active duty, they're legitimate military targets. If they're on inactive duty, they're considered civilians.

But if they are active duty and have military comms, it's just called an "attack", not a "terror attack", even if the attackers are otherwise terrorists.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

Just anyone in an airplane or bus or subway with them

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago

Call it for what it is, a terrorist attack.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

The media condemned political violence against Trump in unison one month ago.

Israel commits one of the biggest terrorist attacks against a Lebanese political organization in history and the media claps.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My concern twofold

A: Without evidence I have a hard time seeing planting bombs in devices was solely targeted at fighters. Odds are an entire shipment was targeted and many people who weren't Hezbollah received bombs

B: Blowing up devices that were by definition carried everywhere certainly killed families and associates who didn't deserve to die.

During the Iraqi war we considered Iraqi leadership targets and I wouldn't have been surprised if they considered our leadership targets as well. If they had in fact only killed Hezbollah I would have no problem with the attack.

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Lotta Hezbollah flags in that crowd, was that some kind of funeral procession from yesterday’s pagers?

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 52 points 4 months ago

Yes, a funeral procession for 4 members.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Exponential funeral growth.

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 months ago

This is a super-villain plan becoming a reality.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 months ago

So if I understand correctly, Israel managed to get a bunch of people in Hezbollah to use pagers and walkie talkies that contained bombs. But they have not been able to gather enough intelligence from control of those communication devices to find and rescue the remaining hostages? And if they weren’t able to catch useful information from those devices, why did the people holding those devices deserve to get blown up?

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago

You are forgetting one simple fact. They don’t care about the hostages.

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[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The hostages are in Gaza, not Lebanon. If Israel had this level of infiltration with Hamas, it is unlikely this would've started in the first place

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 31 points 4 months ago

If this carries on, we'll have exploding semaphore flags by the end of the week.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

Shit, we use the same radios at work. Hope no-one blew up.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 months ago

I saw this on Reddit first while I was checking my city subreddit, damn the headline there definitely gives a different impression.

(The comments are all mostly jokes, didn't even bother wading through them and came to see If Lemmy had a thread instead).

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 4 months ago

R/worldnews? It's completely run by zionists. Anything critical or Israel or pro Palestinian gets instantly nuked

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

Someone tell them the Palm Pilots aren't safe either

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