What kind of shower do you have that allows you to conduct observations in space? Not to mention write up a paper on it.
A: A meteor shower!
Well played.
I briefly worked in this area of physics, it's complicated and depends on your definition of a particle and which quantum gravity model you're talking about.
To simplify things you can just ask the same thing about non-quantum gravity. Why does gravity escape the black hole? The painfully mundane answer is that the black hole is gravity, it's not escaping itself. Gravitational waves can't be emitted from inside the black hole but that's because those are a form of radiation and not the structure of spacetime.
This is specifically important because even quantum gravity (the kind with gravitons) still has this distinction. Particles belong to a field and are excitations of it, the gravitational field itself is not made of those particles. The force associated with that field is mediated by gravitons, but what that really means is complicated and honestly possibly just the result of a cool mathematical trick. It also comes with a bunch of crazy behaviour where you have particles that can break the laws of physics by just kinda doing it so quickly that nature blinks and misses it.
The point is, the quantum gravitational field is enough for the black hole to do its job when objects come by, gravitons don't actually need to escape, though they are involved in complicated ways.
Almost none of this applies in the case of something like loop quantum gravity, which I understand very little of but I don't believe it's possible to discuss it using the language of QFT like I have above.
I always forget quantum physics exist, then someone mentions quantum gravity, and my brain explodes.
If gravity is a particle, and that's a big "if", then the inescapable attractive force of a black hole would be the result of that particle's action, so what exactly would it be escaping? Itself?
I think you're in the wrong community my dude.
Thank you, finally somebody asks.
Also, other important question: What are the differential equations that describe how the Gravity Field propagates through space? In other words, at what speed does gravity propagate?
I'm relatively certain we've established that gravity travels at the speed of light
Only in a vacuum, in water it travels much more slowly. That's why you can float on water.
Archimedes is going to get really angry when he reads your comment
A WITCH!
maybe it can't and this is all just would-be-could-be sensationalism
As far as I know (I'm not a physicist), it's not all that clear that gravity is caused by a particle. It makes sense to assume it is, because of parallelisms with the other fundamental interactions, all of which (other than gravity) are caused by particles that have been thoroughly observed and studied.
So we kinda know what a graviton would be like and what to look for, but so far it hasn't been found, and its existence hasn't been conclusively determined. There are some alternative hypotheses that in fact gravitons don't exist at all, and gravity is just a consequence of the shape of space-time, which I think is what's going on with black holes.
(source: trust me bro I saw it on the Internet)
Because its very, very sneaky.
This isn't a shower thought
it can be
edit: I just noticed this was a link to an article, my bad
Gravity is desire
Maybe gravitons aren't affected by gravity, the same way photons aren't affected by em interactions (which they carry).
If that was the case, we would already have a quantum theory of gravity. The fact that "gravitons" (here I mean the particles of a second quantisation of GR) can interact with themselves makes the theory almost completely useless.
It's technically possible to write down such a theory, but the only way to get results out of it is to first perform an infinite number of experiments.
Because it is not a particle
Thats not the gravity of the situation
Chat GPT is listening....tell it more of this science you guys talk about.
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.