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[-] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Jealous y'all actually get any paid parental leave. over here in freedom land we force new parents to show up to work sleep deprived and neglect their babies. And Americans wonder why the birth rate is falling.

Edit: adding that if it's available, childcare for infants is as expensive or more than rent or mortgage payments. So you have to work to afford that

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I thought I would put my comment here to avoid ridiculous Guardian censorship which they call "moderation":

Actually this is a year off work so very much a "year off".

[-] peg@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's a legal entitlement and it's work.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

How is it "work" sweetheart? 🙄

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Babies are work. They are constant, screaming, pooping, work. Not even 9-5 work, because a very young infant requires around-the-clock care, so really it’s worse than work.

At least in a regular job you can punch out and leave work at the office and go home and relax, or call in sick if you don’t feel good. None of that with a baby. You have to always be there for them, all day, all night, no matter what, no matter how you feel.

I think we’re also running into an issue of language, however. ‘Time Off’, as in, not being in the office for an extended period of time, yes, maternity leave is that. ‘Time Off’ as in, a rest, relaxation, vacation, no. Maternity leave is most definitely not that.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I looked after a baby. First two weeks were very difficult. After that you get used to the routine and I definitely wouldn't call that time "work" - it was a pleasure being able to spend time with my child. It was definitely a time off - I didn't have to go to work every day, I had time to get some more time for myself etc.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, but you couldn’t just hall off to the Bahamas or whatever; you were still glued to the kid. Still looking after them 24/7.

Yes, it becomes routine, but It’s still a routine, you still have a lot to do, and again, no call-outs, you’re on-call all day. It may not be a ‘job’, but it is still work.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

you couldn’t just hall off to the Bahamas or whatever

You absolutely can, with a child.

It may not be a ‘job’, but it is still work

Nope. Of course you can define "work" as anything you do, including brushing your teeth and watching telly if you want - but looking after the baby is not something I would ever describe as "work".

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

You get maternity pay to feed/wash/whatever another human being.

Carers have been doing this for years. It’s work. It’s even a career for some people.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

American Heritage Dictionary; Work, definition:

Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something. ”Cleaning the basement was a lot of work."

Such effort or activity by which one makes a living; employment. ”looking for work."

Again, kids are work. And since, as another lemming pointed out, some people do it as an actual job, it counts under both definitions.

And if you do hie off to the Bahamas, you still have to bring that work along. You can’t just leave it behind and just have a relaxing vacation with nothing to do. (Unless you find a babysitter, but then you’re not doing the work of childcare anymore; now you’re using maternal leave for something that isn’t work).

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Again, kids are work

Again, you are wrong.

And if you do hie off to the Bahamas, you still have to bring that work along

What work sweetheart, since you just took a year off work?

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

All right, honey. What would you call the constant care an infant needs, if it isn’t work?

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And it is work, by, again, both definitions.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No, silly. It is an infant care.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

Don't worry, we're quite good at censorship here too 😇

(Actually the policy is that genuinely awful content gets removed, other things get left so that the community can respond/vote up/vote down)

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