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[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

lmao, not an english native speaker here. What would be, in english language, the difference between poisonous and venomous? Lifting aside the "pois" and the "ven".

[-] Melochar@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Poisonous: will make you sick if you eat it. Venomous: will make you sick if it bites or stings you.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Wait. So what if you ate the snake… wouldn’t that mean at that point it could be poisonous? Checkmate.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you consume venom and don't have any open sores, you should be fine in most cases.

Source

Poison, however, will probably still kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream. Then again, most things will kill you if you inject it into your bloodstream.

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Poison is in the fangs not the meat

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I mean… a fang can be eaten. Dogs eat all sorts of weird stuff.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

If you eat a fang and it gouges into your skin and injects venom, did you eat it or did you get bitten?

[-] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 7 points 10 months ago

It's not the fang that's poisonous but the glands and those absolutely could be even accidentally eaten. #debunked

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

So the conclusion is venomous is a subset of poisonous and the movie totally watchable.

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[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Venom is transported through the fangs just so a bunch of children don't go eating a bunch of venom glands...

[-] gila@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, venom is poisonous. It is a subset of poisons that are injected via bites or stings.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not native English speaking neither but afaik:

poisonous: you die if you eat it

Venomous: you die if it bites you

[-] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
  • If it bites you and you die: it's venomous
  • If you bite it and you die: it's poisonous
[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 10 months ago

Bears are venomous and lava is poisonous. Got it

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

If we follow this logic, bears are both poisonous and venomous.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 10 months ago

I don't speak Spanish, but just looking at the alternative options Google Translate provides when you only input a single word, it's possible that "tóxico" might be a clearer translation of "poisonous".

[-] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Tóxico is more or less analogous to toxic in English, it sounds normal to use with something like a chemical but weird with an animal

[-] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Hace un par de días teníamos esta misma discusión aquí, básicamente «poison» es si lo tocas y mueres. «Venom» es si te muerde y mueres. En español es más simple con veneno jaja

[-] captain_oni 4 points 10 months ago

Español cuenta también con "Ponzoñoso" (Poisonous ) para poder diferenciar. Pero en si, sólo son sinónimos y se utilizan igual.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Lo mismo me pasó hace unos años. En tumblr había un post donde mencionaban las diferencias entre un "raven" y un "crow", pero ambos sabemos que la traducción directa de ambas palabras es "cuervo"

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I was told that if something dies from poison and you eat it then it is dangerous. But if something dies from venom and you eat it you will be okay.

[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago

Seems like it would depend on the poison.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Keep in mind that poisonous and venomous are only different in a scientific context. In regular conversation people use them to mean the same thing (or at least they use poisonous to mean both-- venomous is less used in casual contexts)

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[-] Ravi@feddit.org 23 points 10 months ago

Just watch the german version, where both translates to "giftig". Who cares if it needs to bite you or if you need to bite it, if it contains poison/venom just stay away from it.

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

I saw it last night: it's the worst wet fart of a movie I've seen in a long time

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

What is missing from the original?

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Story cohesion, justifiable plot, relatable characters, believable dialogues, good montage (there are more frame changes than a fast and furious chase sequence) and in general there is nothing that make this one look like a Tim Burton movie.
But hey we now have *checks notes* Monica Bellucci, the worst actress the big screen has ever seen...

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Story cohesion

In one or two simlpe sentences, summarize the story of the original Beetlejuice film. In just a few words, what is Beetlejuice about?

But hey we now have checks notes Monica Bellucci, the worst actress the big screen has ever seen…

May I introduce you to Monique Gabrielle?

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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

As a non native English speaker, where does toxic fit into the poisonous/venevenomous question?

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

Typically used to describe chemicals, or your ex girlfriend

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/364-poisons-and-toxins

Sounds like poisons are injested, and toxins are poisons that are produced within the body through reactions. And venom is just poison that's only harmful in the bloodstream.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

As a native English speaker, uuuuhhhhhhh

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

It's a common mistake, so isn't a character in a movie making it realistic? Wouldn't it be out of character for many characters to have perfect English?

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

it only takes 1 flaw to turn a movie from a 10/10 to a 0/10. this is one such example

sigh guess us real kinophiles must fend for ourselves

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

May point is that it might be a mistake of the character, intended by the writers, not a mistake by the writers.

[-] 10_0@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago
[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It's not a remake. It's a sequel with the same director and writing team as the first one.

It also has a few truly disturbing scenes.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Yes and no. Soulless cash grabs are unwatchable. But things like The Fly, dawn of the dead, the mummy, Scarface...10/10

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[-] Bruhh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The first one isn't exactly watchable either. Beetlejuice is in it for 20 min of the whole movie? He's not the main character, sure but you'd think the titular character would have more screen time.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe she was eating poisonous snakes off camera. You don't know.

[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I literally thought the correction in my head while in the theater. It took some restraint to not mention anything to my partner lol

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Aside of the obvious meme joke. Well, language eveolves, maybe the distinction isn't that important any more. Other languages don't have it and usually you add more context to something. Also when was the last time you tried to eat an unknown animal? Or where in a situation, where you had to decide if the dangerous looking animal is only supposed to be uneatable instead of venomous?

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

as much as i believe languages are living tools, cannot be constrained by rules, and will evolve no matter how much old timers complain

if you tell me about a "venomous mushroom" I'll freak out at the possibility of such a being existing faster than you can explain how you don't really see a reason for the distinction between venomous and poisonous and that other languages don't even have it

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Tbh I feel like it’s a very important distinction . There are poisonous things that aren't harmful unless ingested. However something that is venomous is probably ready to attack if approached

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's kind of funny, because in other languages it doesn't use this distinction and people don't eat poisonous mushrooms because someone called them venomous by accident, or the other way around with a venomous animal.

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