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It's impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 254 points 2 months ago

Oh my god that's amazing. Instructions on how to do what you're literally doing, dead internet theory is so correct. Instructions for robots by robots

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Unpopular opinion: dead internet is not only real, but GOOD. Once robots get good enough to autonomously sign up for websites and make convincing posts, this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities. Meanwhile on the internet, websites that are willing to allow AI content for money will eventually die out due to lack of actual users. The only remaining websites will be run by individuals and organizations with non-profit motives, and a strict human-only policy with verification based on word-of-mouth / invite system.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 32 points 2 months ago

The economy was always bots buying from other bots...

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago
[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities

There is no chance it goes that way, how is talking to people outside even an option for someone used to just being on the internet? Even if the content gets worse, the basic mechanisms to keep people scrolling still function, while the physical and social infrastructure necessary for in person community building is nonexistent.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 106 points 2 months ago

Okay, totally off topic...what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it's a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.

[-] 2001aCentenaryofFederation@fedia.io 42 points 2 months ago

The inverse of this is that people who filter out specific words in their feeds will be tricked into seeing it. You get to piss off 2 groups of people by doing it!

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago
[-] eldoom@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago

Have you ever heard a sea lion? They're super loud and they all get together and bark.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

Ahahaha that’s great

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

Sea-Lioning is an Internet slang term referring to intrusive attempts at engaging an unwilling debate opponent by feigning civility and incessantly requesting evidence to back up their claims. The term was coined in September 2014 by anti-GamerGate Internet users to mock perceived online discussion tactics employed by GamerGate supporters.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

I like the classic Usenet “Micro$oft.” Producers of Microshaft Wind-blows.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 22 points 2 months ago

It conveys "I have such a disdain for that thing that I'm asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word".

I'm not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author's personal opinion about what is being said.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

It's ironic, except for when we're talking about the Fr*nch. It's self aware humor that you're being ridiculous. The tone it's supposed to convey in situations like thisis that you're being hyperbolically obtuse.

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago

And to add insult to injury...

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago

How is Softonic still allowed to advertise it's literally Malware

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 months ago

Is softonic actually malware or an unreliable repository that may contain malware? I’ve never actually clicked in lol

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago

I unknowingly downloaded some software from there when I was a kid, and, from what I remember, it came bundled with some sort of update manager or something. Even if it's not outright malware, I would wager most people who are looking to download logitech's utility don't want some irrelevant third-party garbage on their system. So AT BEST it's crapware / bloatware

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 18 points 2 months ago

They had some issues with their downloader in the past but that thing has been canned a long time ago. It's not a great site but it isn't malware.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

That's the beauty of the internet. There's always a competitor. I don't have to use someone who had a bad reputation at one point but is fine now. I can just use someone else.

[-] xpinchx@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

My elderly dad fell for something similar trying to call HP support, he googled the number and the top result was some bullshit. They had him set up remote access and compromised all his data. Old man had to reset everything.

He called me saying what happened, I had him shut down and unplug. I recovered what I could but he lost a lot of data.

This shit should be illegal. Like, I'm sure it is technically but there shouldnt be unofficial sponsored results above legitimate sources.

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[-] bonegolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 months ago

Softonic has to have made a deal with the SEO devil.

Non idea how their disgusting malware is always on top.

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[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Softonic be like every app you want we have it, even the non exist ones. But once you installed our apps you already have made a pact with the devil

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 27 points 2 months ago

💸 Microsoft 🤑 got 💰 paid 🫰 so... they managed to come out ahead of this whole ordeal just fine.

The rest of us can go suck a bag of dicks for all they care.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

still looks better than the average Google search

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Borderline?

There's still DuckDuckGo, or Kagi if you are rich.

[-] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago
[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Yes, and DDG has really been degrading over the last few months in quality of results imo.

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[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago

Not to defend Bing in anyway, but I typed logitech unifying software and the first result is the download page on logitechs site.

I am not doubting you, but why is it so different for me? I see non of the ???? section, no ads, just a link at the top like you would expect.

What are you using or doing different?

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[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I would give startpage.com a shot i find it works even better than duckduckgo

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 2 months ago

Hey now, that malware has paid to be the top result! Probably using the proceeds scammed out of somebody who downloaded it.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

Stract.com open search engine a guy built in his basement. It is not perfect but feels like Google used to in the late 90s, when you had real results

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago

It’s gone really downhill ever since co-pilot

It’s hard to call it better than Google now

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[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Mainstream search engines (google and bing) are completely useless. Alternatives ftw.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't call bing mainstream

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[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago
[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

That's disgusting.

[-] net00@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't say it's borderline unusable tbh...

The first adware result is blocked with any ad blocker, the fact you see it means you might not have your ad blocker on, or disabled in incognito mode.

The second and third copilot bullshit sections can be toggled off from any search result page, on the sidebar settings there's a toggle.

I do appreciate the bing rewards thing, basically every few weeks I get a gift card because you earn points by using bing

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 2 months ago

They got to you. It's too late to safe you. Rest peacefully.

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[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

How does Microsoft’s compare to M*crosoft’s?

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[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I just use Google with uBlock Origin to get rid of adverts

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

And they force windows users to not use chrome

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I mean... you went to Bing to search for a program. That's something that a new or inexperienced user would do, and Bing tried to help. It gave a direct link to the software (a link which I just tested to be working and safe on a virtual machine), it instructed how to do it using the official website, and then as a third option, it gave a link to the website.

I know that a lot of people will automatically assume a site like Softonic is loaded with malware (and I don't have the time to refute all of those claims) but the download they provided of the software was just a mirror of the official download and came with no added malware, spyware, or adware. Use at your own risk, but OP is pretty clearly fearmongering in an attempt to get people to give them internet points.

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[-] binom@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

tbf it seems to be a common issue with search engines atm. brave also has the stupid ai response topmost, and startpage without adblock pushes in so many sponsored results that you need to scroll to get to anything else

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