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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 month ago

Getting the old gang back together! Too bad Russia is on the other side this time.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

They've always been "that acquaintance".

You only know each other for mutual benefit or a mutual friend, but when that's gone, there becomes literally no reason to hang out any more.

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Considering Russia's past performance in naval warfare in the Pacific, we're probably better off without them.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Getting the old gang back together!

Germany, Japan, and Italy?

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

I don't mean to pick on you specifically with this comment, but good lord people, there's more to history than WW2. Anytime anyone tries to make a historical reference to current events it's awkwardly shoehorned into a WW2 framework. It drives me crazy. Anyway, sorry for the rant there. No, it's an older gang. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble_for_China

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The fact that Russia was ever on the winning side given their history was a fluke.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Eh, they were also instrumental in defeating Napoleon, which counts for a lot.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Russia was always on another side. The Ribbentrop Pact was a weak, untrusting handshake between two barbaric regimes with mutual hatred and a shared realization it would be easier to go rape and pillage more peaceful people instead of each other.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah... as a german taxpayer this is exactly what we need now. Poke China for no real reason.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

You're either with Taiwan or you're with the Terrorists.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago

The hexbear tankies will get upset at this comment 😂

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

That's okay, their opinions don't matter.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

We've got bigger fish to fry at home. My government is actively fueling a genocide in Gaza and doing business with a shitton of other genocidal countries, so virtue signalling with our military by crossing some random strait in east Asia doesn't make me feel any better about anything.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Okay, but can you at least admit that China is doing a genocide against Muslims and that we need to wage a holy war to end their tyrannical communist rein and restore a godly liberal democracy to their shores?

[-] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree that they are doing a genocide against the Uyghurs and that should be stopped. I don't agree with any "holy wars" or whatever you're on there, and I'm not a fan of "liberal democracy" either, since I myself am a communist. I don't see how the german navy crossing through the taiwan strait will change any of that, or if it has absolutely any value, since Germany very well funds an active genocide right now and they don't seem to have a problem with that or the tyrannical Israeli government either. This is just more pathetic virtue signalling.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I don’t see how the german navy crossing through the taiwan strait will change any of that

They'll be greeted as liberators, obviously.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Terrorists?!! You mean people you disagree with?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

A threat to the existence of our people and a future for our children

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Stupidity and blind hate? I agree!

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Would you rather encourage Chinese aggression and show them your country can be bullied around?

[-] febra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'd rather my country not get involved in these superficial platitudes as long as they keep funding aggression in other parts of the globe. If they didn't fund such aggressions, then I wouldn't mind, but as of now, it only looks like pathetic virtue signalling to me.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

"Funding aggression". Lol. No wonder Germany got fucked in the ass by Russia and China so many times with such bootlickers among the voting population.

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[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 14 points 1 month ago

Could we stop making the international tensions? Provoking each other?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 month ago

I claim a small corner of your livingroom as my property.

Please don't make this tense or provoke me.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

And I am going to load that corner full of guns pointed at your family.

But don’t be a dick and raise a fuss about it.

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 10 points 1 month ago

excellent comment. cracked a smile.

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[-] chaospatterns@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago

The alternative is to let certain countries de facto claim a region because others are too afraid to call them on their BS

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You do realise that Taipei's territorial claims are exactly the same as those of Beijing. I know the western media never bother to mention it because it doesn't align with the approved narrative but Taiwan claims the very same nine dash line as China.

To this day, Taiwan remains firm in its claims to the South China Sea. They have been historically justified on the basis that, as there was no United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) in existence in 1947, it was legitimate for the ROC to claim the South China Sea territories and waters based on the historical connections of these with China. According to the Institute for National Defense and Security Research (INDSR), a Taiwanese think tank, there was no legal impediment to the claim in 1947 and, for a long period, there were no challenges to the ROC’s claims from other countries.[4] They were largely ignored – except by the People’s Republic of China (PRC), which concurred with them.

https://www.thechinastory.org/taiwans-south-china-sea/

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

I know the western media never bother to mention it because it doesn't align with the approved narrative

How to say "I'm not worth listening to" without saying it.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tank(ie) you for sharing your opinion!

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

you do realize that's only because the CPR would never accept a end to the civil war with the independence of Taiwan?

The only reason Taiwan hasn't abandoned their claims yet is because that would mean they say they're independent, and that would lead to a certain invasion attempt by the CPR

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 53 points 1 month ago

Has China stopped making ownership claims to waters and lands beyond their borders?

Does China operate international police stations to police their citizens across the globe?

Maybe China should act right and follow the same treaties as the rest of the planet.

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[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

As soon as Chinese “fishing vessels” aren’t armed and won’t turn their transponders off to sneak into territorial waters

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago

I agree, that's why China should drop all territorial claims for Taiwan

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

There would be outrage if China sailed warships through the Baltic and North seas, or the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean sea. Or if China had a strong military presence in Russia, Belarus, Cuba, and Venezuela etc.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 49 points 1 month ago

Baltic and North seas, or the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean sea

None of these are contested territories. Chinese vessels go there all the time and nobody really cares.

[-] lostinfog@reddthat.com 25 points 1 month ago

Would it though? They did sail in baltics and the gulf

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