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Tommy Tuberville Proclaims Ukraine ‘Can’t Win’ Over Russia: ‘It’s a Junior High Team Playing a College Team’ (www.mediaite.com)

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Stupidest man in the Senate.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The United States, my country, is a gold plated shithole. A garbage country and society in name only with a sociopathic culture of "whether I got mine or not, fuck you."

That being said, we are the absolute best, God like relatively speaking, at one thing and one thing only: Warfare. The killing lots of humans in high volume business. We have no peer in that one respect.

In this tortured metaphor, that high school team has the advantage of being aided in technology, tactics, and intelligence by the entirety of the NFL.

[-] Shrek@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

So eloquently put.

[-] I_AM_CORNHOLIO@startrek.website 48 points 1 year ago

Oh look, another republican traitor publicly fellating putin.

[-] Prox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

This dirt bag has been a traitor for a long time now. He's the turd solely blocking DoD appointments as part of some religious crusade.

[-] vanontom@geddit.social 15 points 1 year ago

His crusade just cost Alabama a nice new military HQ. Genius. Congrats Colorado.

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So happy we get to keep Peterson as the main Space Force base. All the infrastructure is already here and it looks like Colorado Springs won the Climate Change lottery with having daily rain since June instead of crushing heat that the Southeast has gotten.

Everything is just so green and wet here in Colorado Springs, while every other place burns.

[-] vanontom@geddit.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm afraid we'll all just be experiencing extremes from now on. Rain for months, drought for months. Not much "normal". California was panicking over drought and fires, then it finally gets relief, and... then it's flooding. Quite surprised that hurricanes haven't been too wild yet.

It's miserable in Texas now, second year straight with all-time heat. Vegetation and wildlife suffering. Year before last it felt like it rained for months, even into summer. While winters have been all-time cold (with rare snow for two years). I mean, I get it, we're basically in Mexico, I guess it's to be expected. Envious of Colorado, looks like a nice spot and honestly I'd like to visit.

[-] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there's a ( R )eason.

[-] ATQ@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

Tommy Tuberville the military hating Putin sycophant? That Tommy Tuberville?

[-] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

meanwhile, Russia is pulling its 80-year-old Soviet war machines out of mothballs just to keep up with Ukraine’s “Junior High Team"

[-] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Alone? Probably not. But that doesnt mean it isnt worth fighting. And they dont stand alone either.

Weird how that kinda also applied to 13 colonies facing the British circa 1776 Tommy, eh? You smooth-brained cock-wipe of a half-wit.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Now I’m convinced Ukraine will win.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Proclame here proclame there...

Seems to me Russia is getting its butt kicked severely!

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Republican rhetoric and Russian rhetoric are indistinguishable. Fuck Teletubbie Tommy and Alabama for electing this traitor.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, Russia are losing artilleries, areas controlled, and had over 250K killed as a result of combat. That being said, Ukraine can defeat them and we will continue supporting them.

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[-] meldroc@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Traitor Tuberville...

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

He's a military strategist on par with his ability as being a winning dumbass, racist football coach.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

He lost to Vandy, I don't think he's the best person to make that point...

[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

By that logic we would have lost the American Revolution.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This war isn't meant to be won, it's meant to be continuous. And the US is killing Ukrainians and Russians in the name of protecting MIC profits.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Funny how the war would end tomorrow if Russia went back the fuck home.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I'm not an expert on these things, but I'm pretty sure Russians and Ukrainians are doing a fine job of killing each other without direct U.S. intervention.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We sent 76 billion dollars worth of aid to Ukraine in a year and a half. That is four times their own defense budget for 2023. We're funding their defense. It's a proxy war between US and Russia. I mean, we've already been intervening -- in 2014 we were trying to influence the outcome of their government during their revolution, you can read some analysis here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957.amp

Edit: if you flipped it on it's head, this war is like if Mexico had a revolution that overthrew their corrupt government, and while the protests were happening Russia was supporting key members of the ones overthrowing the government. US feels threatened that our neighbor is strengthening ties with our enemy, and so we invade Mexico. It's obviously not right for the US to invade sovereign Mexico. It's obviously not right that Russia is fucking around in Mexico's revolution. But in this case, Russia doesn't care if Mexico beats back the invading US, they just want to keep supplying them with weapons to prop up Russia's own domestic "defense" industry, prop up the economy, claim moral necessity, unite the party against a common enemy, bobs your uncle, you're elected again

[-] splonglo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

One years' defence budget to decimate the entire military capability of one of the US biggest rivals. That's just a good deal. And it's insane to bring up US interference in Ukrainian politics when that's the exact thing Russia has been doing since forever. Russia has considered Ukraine a vassal state since the time of the Tsar, but somehow America is the one trying to mess with their sovereignty? Delusional propaganda.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say I'm delusional about, or what you're trying to claim is propaganda, but nice lil throw-in there. Good to see you're not actually trying to have a conversation.

It seems you've entirely missed the point though. Of course Russia would rather Ukraine as their subject, and that they would rather they have a russia-friendly government (after all, a third of Ukraine speaks Russian).

There is no justification for Russia invading Ukraine.

But the US has actually done nothing to try to end this war, and has done much to provoke it, and I think that's because we have a perpetual war economy. You said it yourself, it's a good deal to weaken our rivals -- we don't actually need American troops on the ground, but we can still fight the evil Russians, hoo-rah! Fuck them communists! Talk about hawkish propaganda.

Edit: oh, and by the way, if you really want to argue that US should be in this proxy war because Russia is a big US "rival": Russia's GDP is ~2 trillion dollars compared to the US 26 trillion, so not exactly economic rivals, and comparing NATO vs Russia military prowess isnt much of a fairer balance. So how do you mean that Russia is a US rival? Historically, sure, but we shouldn't go invading everyone considered a historical "rival," should we?

[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

You're hilarious.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that it's politically advantageous to have a big bad enemy country to unite your party. For Democrats, it's Russia. For Republicans, it's China.

Obviously both Russia and China are authoritarian as all fuck, but Israel is an authoritarian occupier as well, and we're perfectly fine with them.

[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Hard to tell, is that a double, trifecta, or grand slam of whattaboutism?

In any case, hats off. Your skills are on point.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, there's really only one whataboutism in my comment (what about Palestine and Israel), but sure, you can say there are four in there.

And honestly I think it's a fair point. The US is not purely interested in defending nation states from authoritarian occupation, because if we were, we'd not support the state of Israel in their oppression of Palestinians. So there must be other factors behind our support for Ukraine, some might be legitimate (protecting Ukrainian exports to keep global economy stable) and others not so much (protecting profits for private arms companies). And I think it's more likely the latter, considering the size of our "defense" budget.

What do you have to say to that? I'm interested in your take, not in you just accusing me of whataboutism.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Democratic Party are also against China.

- Signed, a millennial Democrat against China.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, but who isn't "against" China in the West? They commit atrocities left and right.

But I think it'd be more difficult to find many who'd support military conflict with China, proxy or otherwise.

Edit: honestly, scratch that. I think it would be pretty easy to get popular support for a conflict with China, in the same way it was easy to get popular and unwavering support for a conflict with Russia

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[-] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

So because one country is weaker we should allow the stronger nation to simply take it over?

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why do we even take any of this B's for face value? He's just a shill teeing up the narrative for his financers.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We aren't taking them at face value. His voters probably are though.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Mitch McConnell is barely with it and Lindsey Graham is paralyzed by fear of getting named in Georgia's case against Trump, so Putin has had to put his 3rd string on the field.

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