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[-] oce@jlai.lu 19 points 2 months ago

Tech projects failing is normal, what's more telling is comparing them to non-AI tech projects.

But according to research by the RAND Corporation, over 80% of these AI projects will fail — which is twice the failure rate for non-AI technology-related startups.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago

Remember kids, the "failure" is economic failure, not moral, not utility.

Chatgpt is a "success". If the company is stealing your face, art, voice but it is making money, they list it as a success.

By that metric, FTX was a "success" until their fraud was revealed.

80% fail economically, how many of those 20% fail morally? How many of those 20% have real utility? (E.g. not only generating weird picture of poor children building Mickey mouse out of bottles)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You don't need to tabulate the moral failure. That's 100%.

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Billions in capital should be billions in taxes.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

the internet can do really good things but for every Amazon we also had pets.com in the 00s burst i think we are speedruning the bubble with AI. I can't wait till it pops so we can move on to something useful and stop wasting power.

[-] scripthook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Remember that AI is an extension of human understanding, knowledge and interpretation. Not a replaceable tool

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

AI has existed for less than a decade. We are fine without AI. You can't just look at something still being built, with loads of problems, and call it irreplaceable. Nobody depends on AI for their survival, they depend on water, clean air, and other resources that AI is taking away. It's also taking people's jobs that, again, they need for their survival.

Stop emulating Elon Musk and get some sleep.

[-] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Uhhh, AI has been around for DECADES. You are likely conflating AI as a whole with "generative AI" which has been experiencing a boom the last 5+ years. Some examples of AI include pathfinding (think of your GPS telling you how to get somewhere), chess engines (also a form of pathfinding, incidentally), and NPCs in video games making decisions based on a set of rules and states.

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh. Well then, replace "AI" with "generative AI". I may have been a bit confused there. In that case, we are perfectly fine without generative AI, and it has guzzled resources and manpower. For such a cost, what is the return? You can look at this Hill article, or you can look at fake studies, or other ways GenAI has been harmful. Stuff like the A* search algorithm didn't require jumbo subsidies for it to work properly, and it isn't making the internet as it is worse.

So that's what I'm saying. I have yet to find an argument proving, successfully, that generative AI is worth the cost.

[-] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, I definitely agree with the sentiment. I try to evangelize the fact that Gen AI !== AI because AI as a whole has a ton of amazing benefits at low cost. And it's way more prevalent than people realize. But I don't disagree that Gen AI has been appropriated for some of the dumbest shit ever that costs an arm and a leg to create. A* is a good example of what I was referring to in my original comment. Simple, effective, useful. That being said, I'm sure even Gen AI could have some worthwhile benefits if used in better ways, but it sure does seem like we can't have many nice things as of late (2024) 🙃

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