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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 76 points 5 months ago

How will launching mirrors of the size of your entire farm (if not hundreds times larger) for extra 30 min of sunset ever be more cost-effective than simply adding a small percentage of extra PV panels

This is this year’s single biggest understatement

[-] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"By precisely reflecting sunlight that is endlessly available in space to specific targets on the ground, we can create a world where sunlight powers solar farms for longer than just daytime, and in doing this, commoditize sunlight."

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 53 points 5 months ago

Scientists: Climate change is happening.

Some billionaires: Let's make a giant parasol in space.

This guy: How about more sun?

[-] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

I will learn how to make an orbital rocket just to fuck this things day up.

No, night is already too bright. You are not ruining this for me further.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 44 points 5 months ago

Reflect Orbital is a California-based startup

Aight that's where i stop.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

New Theranos!

[-] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Even if it were actually doable, this a dumbass idea. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that night/darkness are necessary for life and that we already have enough environmental problems related to artificial light pollution.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

yeah, shit's fucking cooking, you know what'd be great? let's add more heat, at night!

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Do you think that any C-suite shithead backing this cares about environmental consequences?

[-] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

I don’t even want to imagine the environmental studies and hurdles they’ll have to jump through to artificially alter an areas day/night cycle. There’s a laundry list of environmental concerns that I’m sure any homeowner or eco-activist worth their salt would jump on. Not to mention glare and impacts to air traffic, on and on.

Would make my solar panels pretty darn effective though. Would probably be great for SAD in winter too. Clever idea. Not sure I can get behind it though.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Oh Mr X guy, so you want to fly a Teslas into space? Are there environmental impacts? Oh. Yes, one more million. Okay looks like you've covered all the possible impacts, you have our go for launch!

[-] Grippler@feddit.dk 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sending a rocket on a ridiculously stupid task with no useful purpose is not even remotely close to having the same negative impact as this has the potential to. It's so far apart that it is honestly quite stupid to even attempt to compare them.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Oh wait....

Oh Mr X guy, so you want to fly a big ass mirror into space? Are there environmental impacts? Oh. Yes, one more million. Okay looks like you've covered all the possible impacts, you have our go for launch! We might need a few more millions of reasons to keep the masses at bay please. Thank you!

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

Honestly if X guy could please hurry up and buy this company.

I need them to go bankrupt or have become illegal before they send some actual junk into space. And if they do send something it needs to have stupid decisions by a higher up so it cant actually remain up there and ruin the nights further.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

you think profit obsessed c-suites give even a moments consideration about environmental concerns?

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

This has the potential for some amazing pranks. Imagine being on a camping trip somewhere, the dawn light illuminates your tent, so you get up and start going about your day, making breakfast etc, and all of a sudden the sun goes out.

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Can we just for a minute stop fucking around in space? It's getting annoying

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It's just life giving light that we're talking about here. 😂.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but it's unfamothably stupid.

Think, for a second: we already have way too much energy in the system, with too much heat that can't leave easily. You really want to add to that? REALLY?

Because that's painfully fucking dumb.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We should probably stop fucking around with Earth first but I don't see that happening while sociopaths rule the world

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I just feel like we at least can, in theory, keep the shit we do on/to earth under control.

Space is a different world entirely and not only do we not know what effects our shitty pollution projects have out there, we don't even really care about it as far as I can tell.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I just feel like we at least can, in theory, keep the shit we do on/to earth under control.

We aren't even doing it NOW though... Not even close.

Space will become so littered with high speed debris that within our lifetime it will be no longer safe to launch.

[-] RicoBerto 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This was a project by the soviets in the 80s as well. I know there is a well produced YouTube video on the subject, but sadly it must be named something incomprehensible like "the forgotten Russian project to turn night into day." Because I can't fucking find it.

Here's a Smithsonian article instead. here

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago
[-] RicoBerto 2 points 5 months ago

Yes! I knew it had to be mustard, didn't think to check his nebula thank you!

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

This will never happen

[-] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

Mustard actually just did a video on the first attempts of this by the Soviets/Russians.

https://nebula.tv/videos/mustard-the-man-who-built-a-spotlight-in-space/

[-] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

James Bond death ray time :)

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

No, I want you to tan strongly Mr. Bond! Mhahahaha!

[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It's like that episode of futurama - the mirror wernstrom put in space to reflect sunlight, which gets tapped by a little space rock, and tilts into a solar powered death beam

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I was actually thinking 🤔...hmm this would be the best way to tell some other civilization that we live in this planetary system....get a mirror big enough to point a beam out of its normal trajectory in some sort of non random fashion. Basically smoke signals using a mirror.

[-] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago

Humans on Earth have been transmitting radio waves into space for over a century now through various means: television broadcasts, radio communications, and radar signals.

[-] funkajunk@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A laser would work better. Over vast distances, a giant mirror would eventually scatter the light, not to mention would be super inaccurate.

Speaking of inaccurate, even if we could shine a mirror or a laser, it could be millions of years until that light reaches any other civilization, then they would have to travel millions of lightyears to reach the point of origin of the "smoke signal".

I say "point of origin" and not "Earth", because our galaxy would have also travelled far from the spot we were in when we fired our laser. The Milky Way travels at over 2 million km/h, so even in a measly million years, that puts us over 2 trillion km from where we started. (see edit)

You can probably see where this is going.

I'm of the mind that we are undoubtedly not alone in the universe - the sheer scale and endlessness of it tells us that there are an infinite number of possibilities. There most likely are other worlds that formed and evolved in the exact same manner as ours, maybe even under conditions so perfect as to cause them to follow the exact same path as us.

Though the unfortunate truth is, we probably will never encounter another species. There could be an infinite number of ourselves, but we are forever separated by the ever expanding breadth of space and time.

EDIT:

My math was totally wrong, just realized that I was basing my estimates on how far our galaxy travels in an hour, not a year. The distance we travel in a million years would be closer to seventeen quadrillion five hundred twenty trillion kilometres.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

To be fair if they're able to locate the point of origin they're probably able to calculate the time it took to get there as well as the current position of our galaxy.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

... or you know, use radio

[-] browse@lemmy.specksick.com 1 points 5 months ago

I think this would take way to long to travel somewhere where things acutally live the light will probably only reach them long after humanity is gone.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Might be fun for novelty on a concert venue or ball game, but I can't imagine it'd be economical for solar farms.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I watched a video yesterday about the laser range finder on a tank. The interesting thing is that at long enough ranges, the laser expands into a cone that may be bigger than the target and give inaccurate readings.

Anyway, I look forward to this totally real and feasible technology.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You just need perfectly rigid solar mirror technology that you can store in a rocket while being launched.

[-] Ashelyn 5 points 5 months ago

Why not just put up a Moonlight Tower?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun . . .

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