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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 weeks ago

Just make sure you don't get authoritarian bourgeois sneaking into positions of power during the chaos like they tend to do.

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I hope you have a better reason than "trust me bro" because this literally always happens

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[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

How do you figure sport

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

Vote Blue no matter who

THEN we can think about changing something. Cant run if you never learned to walk after all...

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago

Vote genocide no matter who

[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Works like a charm to expose the fakers.

Every. Single. Time. :)

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

i don't think the genocide is fake

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

How many times do you have to be fooled by the Democratic Party though? This is just a cult problem by this point

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

...THEN we wait 4 more years to vote again for another dissapointing politician.

[-] redempt@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

this is the most pro union ticket in decades. if you want progress, the path is collective labor power. it's how we won the weekend and the 40 hour work week. it's how we won paid lunch breaks (which are now being lost in many places). it's how we earned paid maternity and paternity leave. if you want things to get better and stay better, join a union, STRIKE and just keep building coalition and class consciousness.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

nothing pro union about union busting for the last 4 years.

and probably the next 4 if you aint naive to believe campaign promises from a career politician.

[-] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, the Joe guy should take himself off the ticket or something.

[-] 10_0@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

In real, actionable, practical terms: What is the alternative you propose people choose, that will reduce the likelyhood of a fascist government right now at this election?

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Claudia de la Cruz from PSL

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, and how do you plan to get them into the hearts and minds of around 50% of the population in the next 2 months, when the vast majority haven't even heard of her? It's not enough to have someone who could be a good president, you also need to get people to vote for them. If you want most of the population to vote for someone, they need to be aware of them as a viable option years beforehand.

I agree that the 2 choices are pawns of the rich, but even if every person who knew about Claudia voted for her, she wouldn't even get enough votes for her to make the news, much less win. We're talking about tens of millions of people voting in unison for an election win to happen in this country. At this stage in the game, there are only 2 candidates with that kind of draw power. If you want to focus on the 2028 election (assuming there is one, since there clearly won't be if Trump wins) to get a 3rd viable candidate on that ballot, that's a noble plan, but by now this election's potential winners are already down to 2.

Voting isn't about closing your eyes and saying "I want someone good to win!" It's about assessing which people might actually win, and voting for the one that best aligns with your views, however loosely. It's about strategy. If you want to change that, you need to build national presence in the name of your preferred candidate, and you need to start years ahead of the elections. Big changes don't happen at the ballot, they happen during the campaigning stage and beforehand. If your candidate isn't on the news every day leading up to the election, most voters won't even know they're an option.

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[-] AnarchoNoAdjective@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

First past the post voting in a two party system gives you a 99.9999% likelihood of a facist government this election IMHO The only practical action to enact change seems to be a mass general strike.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

It's a shit voting system. But the election is happening. How to effect a mass general strike large enough to change the voting system and introduce a new candidate with a chance of winning within two months?

Because that is needed in order to safely tell people not to vote.

[-] AnarchoNoAdjective@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Do both? I'm not saying don't vote I'm saying the impact of voting is not enough to enact substantial change in policy.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Congrats for destroying your credibility with "both sides" bullshit.

Meanwhile, back in factual reality, the Democrats aren't fascist and have more than a 0.00001% chance of winning.

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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but you don't have more than two options for president of the united states. You have the one supporting unions and the weird racist loony hater one. Anyone suggesting something else might happen this year is lying to you.

[-] three_cheese_fugazi@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

One can only dream

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not funny

Didn't laugh

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